CLONING MADE EASY, a pictorial guide. - Page 11

nigel · 12-31-2008, 06:09 PM

Still some going thanks Lou, though here are some mistakes i made. [or at least what i think killed some lol]

1. after carefully planting with minimal water in the soil mix [ potting mixes, sand, compost, composted cow manure and fine gravel], i put water in base of tub.

My thought was to raise humidity [no fancy meters here sorry, lol], result was that i had dead uns and mold in some, by the time i did first tub opening.

2. doing it in flower, lot more delicate; the budsicle on the top collects water, get top heavy, collapse into mix surface; mold and die.

3. taking from understorey, using weaklings, some survived 1 and 2, just to die anyway

My solution was to put the tub on the enclosed verandah, [ in southern hemisphere , so sun is on correct hours lol], dried them out a bit by having lid on loose. i reasoned fluoros in veg would not get me there.

sun is the enemy of mould.

end result is that out of over 2 dozen sfarters , i have 6 that look good, a dozen maybes [maybe dying, or maybe living lol].

veg space real estate is in short supply, so keeping them on porch where they get morning sun thru slat glass windows, diffuse light in afternoon. will move them along to end where its hotter when they harden up.

Can they prosper and raise the rent for a pot under lights? i hope so, we are starting to bond. lol nigel

Bushrag_Ghillie · 12-31-2008, 11:54 PM

Lou, I could not hold back and I was tempted to dig up the clones that were just sitting there not doing anything. This is what I found maybe you can help figure this out . Each clone had four strands of root leaving the base stem, but the roots looked dried out or rotted. the soil wasn't that dry or muddy. Shouldn't the roots have survived and keep growing if the soil was a little bit on the dry side and could it have been that I over watered when I realized they were growing a bit . I'm not giving up on this strain yet. " There will be blood "

Bushrag_Ghillie · 01-01-2009, 12:11 AM

That's what I don't get Nigel. they need high humidity with temps in the high 80s but when I give em just that they get mold around the base and rot.

stelow · 01-01-2009, 05:37 AM

Thanks for the Cloning tutorial Lou, I usually suck at cloning so a refresher maybe will help my success rate. This is the third clone I've tried off this same plant the first two I f''ed up already, hoping that third time's a charm. The cutting is inside a ten gallon fish aquarium with a sheet of plastic over the top.

**Lou Cypher** · 01-01-2009, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nigel

1. after carefully planting with minimal water in the soil mix, i put water in base of tub.
My thought was to raise humidity [no fancy meters .

2. doing it in flower, lot more delicate.

My solution was to put the tub on the enclosed verandah, [ in southern hemisphere , so sun is on correct hours lol], dried them out a bit by having lid on loose. i reasoned fluoros in veg would not get me there.

nigel how are you man.
I see you been having some problems with your clones.

Unless you have RH lower than 15% you shouldn't put water in the tub, and if you do, keep an eye cause humidity will rise quickly and of course will create mold if the top its not open for fresh air to get in.
Eliminate that completely, try to pick RH with keeping the clone box warm so the water in the soil evaporates and don't open the top that often.

Taking clones during flowering, thats something I would do only in an emergency, definitely hard to root.

IMO you should put them under floros 18/6, indoor environment its more constant and stable.

Keep us posted of the progress.

**Lou Cypher** · 01-01-2009, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bushrag_Ghillie

Each clone had four strands of root leaving the base stem, but the roots looked dried out or rotted. the soil wasn't that dry or muddy.
Shouldn't the roots have survived and keep growing if the soil was a little bit on the dry side and could it have been that I over watered when I realized they were growing a bit .

Bushrag, you're correct buddy, the roots got rotten from watering them again.
Thats not the end of them though, if you re cut them and put them back in soil they might grab new root.
As long as they have couple green leaves to absorb light, they'll grow in to plants.
If you see them growing a bit, don't water them, spray them a little.
Once they can stand longer than an hr with out dome then they're ready for some water in their pots.
If you have a temp/RH meter keep notes of whats happening with them daily, that way you will be able to create a formula around the strains you cloning.

nigel · 01-02-2009, 12:52 PM

Thanks Lou, a case of not wanting to waste clippings. They are sill alive, but struggling.

My fault Bushrag. Was so careful just to put a bit in clone hole, keep mix dry. Then months of playing with seedlings kicked in, habit to put a bit of moisture in. By the time i woke up, too late. lol

Does not take much moisture to raise humidity in a small space. Heads filling up now, so will have some mothers to give it a serious go. best wishes nigel

red-bull · 01-02-2009, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Lou Cypher

fellow growers.

Many threads covering about every aspect of cloning exist in these forums explaining every step of the process with great results and successful grows following.
What is different with this thread is, like the title says, Cloning made easy.
No special tools, no special gels and just tap water.

Tools: pair scissors/ empty cup/ any cloning powder
Soil: Pro-Mix
Pot: clear solo cup & 6" pot
Water: plain tap
Optional: rolled joints/ ashtray/ lighter

Chapter I: Taking a clone from a mother plant until harvest.
Chapter II: Taking a clone from a re-veg mother plant.
Chapter III: Taking a clone for a future mother plant.

CHAPTER ONE

Pick 1), this is a clone that's vegging for about 6 weeks now, 10 clones were taken from her last week, and this is the mom that we'll be cloning today.

Pick 2), this is the clone to be cut. (if you look deep inside you'll be able to see the sites that clones were taken already).

Pick 3), shows where the cut will be. Notice that I cut clones that already have 4 nodes, I leave one on the plant, so I can have another brunch grow.

Pick 4), the clone has 3 nodes, one of them will be cut to create another site for roots to grow from.

Pick 5), now the clone is ready for the next step.

Pick 6), dip the clones stem in the cup of water and

Pick 7), immediately in to the cloning powder.

Pick 8), Now place the clone in to the soil filled cup,

Pick 9), your clone is ready to be placed in a dome.

Pick 10), here it is with the rest of them that were taken earlier.

As a dome I use a clear tub that fits 24 clones at a time and keeps RH very stable.

cont......

Thank you very much this has been extreamly helpfull

southernnights · 01-02-2009, 03:45 PM

I wanted to follow up and say thanks again Lou - by far the easiest way with the most success I've had in a long time.

I went 5 out of 6 for the first batch of mine - and the only one I lost was the one I experimented with, giving it slightly drier soil.

I'm taking another batch of 6-8 tomorrow from the other plants I have in the garden, while the first 5 get transplanted. I'll post some pics later...

southernnights · 01-02-2009, 08:25 PM

Here they are - 5 of 6 and so simple I could do it in 8 days over the Holiday - meaning I wasn't home a whole lot.

Great journal - thanks for sharing - it's packed up for you Lou

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