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Old 11-27-2008, 08:03 AM   #1
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This is my 3rd run with a bubble cloner. First run took over 2 weeks, but the clones where taken from flowering plants, so I attributed it to that.

Second run took over 2 weeks, but I forgot to paint or lightproof the tupperware container, so I attributed it to that.

This is the 3rd run, today is day 14, only 4/36 showing roots, but pretty healthy ones, others don't even have nubs.

I never PHed or checked my temps, ph was 7.1 today, adjusted it down to 5.6. Res was 75 degrees, temp under a very loose fitting dome is 80.5 during lights on, but I took the dome off today for good, the only reason I left it on this long was that I'm out of town all week and can't monitor.

I didn't count the run where I got a new T-5 light and just plain fried them.

Just wondered if anyone monitors res temps or ph with these. I had faster rooting in rockwool, and even faster in good old soil, yet I've seen some post they were showing roots in a ridiculously short time, like 5 days.
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Old 11-27-2008, 08:20 AM   #2
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i had the same problem with my bubble cloner, tripps. each run took longer and longer
i gave up after a month on the last run. I am wondering if it has anything to do with how the rez is cleaned after each run - something building up on the plastic? Bleach buildup, maybe, or some sort of fungal growth?

any thoughts?
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Nope, 2 brand new containers for this one, I felt the last was too shallow.
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I set the pH and ppms at fresh fill and the 20gal volume keeps the numbers stable...Now wheather that has alot to do with it i really don't know...



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How long to show roots is typical for yours? (20 gallons how many sites?)
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How long to show roots is typical for yours? (20 gallons how many sites?)
Their not light'in quick (7-9days) as a rule.. I have a set in now that i cut back on the 12th that are just now git'in go'in that ya could probably call average...
The 20gal is for 23 sites... I am a large believer in the stability of mass but it's not necessary at all for success but i can leave the reservoir untouch'd till i take them out 30days later..

How much light and at what distance are those in your journal? I want to say the demand of the leaves are tax'in the stem size but i dang sure would'nt want to cut anymore leaf off those


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A 2 tube T-5, 110w total, 16-17" above. First try I set it 8" above, never used a T-5 before, checked them an hour later they were down flat. Live and learn. Do you use a dome, and for how long? I agree about the mass thing, thats why I doubled my res size for this one, but only from 1 gal to 2 gal
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Mahn that light sounds good to go... Maybe it's just that process ain't fer your climatic region
No i don't use a dome... along time back i had a system that used jars for domes and i had all kinds of issues and did away with them and the problems..
However..it never did make any sense to me when i live in a low humidity area.
I really do believe that certain methods work better in some regions of the country and looks like your do'in everything in line for success.


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Yeah, cuz the house is being heated, even in the basement my RH in the veg chamber is only 38-40%, it's a real loose dome, overlaps at all 4 corners, my RH was higher earlier in the year, I didn't use the dome, except for a day or 2 when a couple wilted initially. Thanks.

PS-water is cuz air pressure was pushing water thru the plugs, drilled a couple holes in the lid and fixed that.

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I was reading how sometimes you have problems rooting clones. How many air stones are you running to your plants? I'm running 2 air stones to a 5 gallon res. The bubbles keep the roots white and healthy. Cold basement temps help too. These in the pictures are 3 weeks old. All I can say is decrease the size of the res or increase the amount of air stones. Each will increase the bubbles per square inch.
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