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Old 06-12-2009, 03:46 AM   #1
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1) I am going to transplant my mother plants to larger pots and want to take cuttings. Is it better to take cuttings before or after the transplant to avoid shock?

2) Can you clone plants outside? Does it take significantly longer than cloning them indoors?

3) I was wondering if it is true that clones should be given light doses of nutes because their technically a mature plant?

4) If you put a cutting straight into 12/12 will it show sex immediately or does it have to root first? I want to take cuttings from my plants as soon as they’re big enough to top. I’m not trying to get a large yield from the cutting, I just need to know which ones are female ASAP.
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Old 06-12-2009, 06:47 AM   #2
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I've never cloned before but from what ive read it goes something like this. If you clone a female plant you get a female, so unless your taking cuttings off plants that you dont know the sex, the 12/12 wont be needed immediatly and you can let the clones root and be healthy. I've heard of not giving clones nutes until they root (aside from cloning product) but again, never done it myself. And yes I'm guessing you can clone outside but a humidity dome always seems to be essential, wether you use it outside or in.
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1) I would go before. Removing growth will reduce transpiration and thus stress...if I understand your question correctly.

2) They will strike outdoors. More slowly since you do not have as much control over environment.

3) No feeding of fresh cuttings is needed whatsoever. Once the cuttings strike, begin feeding at full strength.

4) I have never heard of someone doing this. The cutting needs all it's energy for new root growth. There will be no way for the cutting to transport nutrients for flowering without roots.

Do not always assume that transplanting will stress your plants. Mostly, when I transplant, my plants burst with new growth...like taking your boots off after a long day walking - it feels awesome to let your feet breathe. Transplant stress has a lot to do with the individual plant's genetics IMO...some plants like it, some don't.

EDIT: When striking outdoors, keep them in shade, they will strike faster. Same goes for indoors, don't put them under HID's unless at a significant distance.
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Old 06-12-2009, 08:22 AM   #4
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4) If you put a cutting straight into 12/12 will it show sex immediately or does it have to root first? I want to take cuttings from my plants as soon as they’re big enough to top. I’m not trying to get a large yield from the cutting, I just need to know which ones are female ASAP.
I would imagine it would have to root first. It would be best to prolly force sex your plant that you have now vs wait for the cutting to root then force 12/12. You can take a a garbage bag black or a paperbag and cover A branch to simulate 12/12. You should see preflowers on that branch after doing this for a bit. Is your plant sexually mature?

You would waste less time forcing the mom vs. cloning, waiting for roots ect
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It just seems odd to me that you would join two growing websites under the same username and ask the identical questions in rapid succession. IC mag has all the same questions you are asking here as MrGiggleBush. You are also registered their as MRGiggleBush. I dont get it. Why are you doing this. Every thread you have started at GC, you have the same exact thread going at IC Mag. Whats up with that?
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Old 06-12-2009, 09:37 AM   #6
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It just seems odd to me that you would join two growing websites under the same username and ask the identical questions in rapid succession. IC mag has all the same questions you are asking here as MrGiggleBush. You are also registered their as MRGiggleBush. I dont get it. Why are you doing this. Every thread you have started at GC, you have the same exact thread going at IC Mag. Whats up with that?
And what's w/ the necessity to ask several questions in rapid fire when most of the stuff is in the Grow FAQ or can be found doing a search.
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not sure what type of bush it is.

simple questions to get a simple reaction, generate annoyance.

suggest a general purpose herbicide; bloody things suckered everywhere lol nigel
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There needs to be more to it than just a bored individual asking questions of identical nature at two seperate websites at the same time for the purpose of seeking "the annoyance it will generate" but you may have a point about that nigel. Like it doesnt really matter but whats the payoff for the OP, will he become an established member of the community in the months and years to come with this type of foundation that is seemingly built on sand?
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For why some bushes grow the way they do.

Hopefully it will flourish elsewhere; it does not seem to mind where it grows. lol nigel
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I've taken clones from unsexed plants, put them in a bubble cloner, then set the lights to 12/12 right away. From my experience, the clone will root first, then show sex. It's a great way to know the sex of a plant before you are done vegging it. Thus if it's a male, you can just choppy chop!

I especially do this when my box is getting crowded and growing from seed. And you don't have to wait till they are completely mature. If you had room, you could reveg the females to fill the rest of the space in your box.


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