bagabones73

hi guys and gals

i am almost to the end of the construction of my new garden

im about to start soakong and germ. seeds

i need to get from seeded plant to mothers to clones asap

any tricks up your sleeve

i have 2 flower rooms to harvest ever 4 or 5 weeks SOG

example: i thought to grow out 10 seeds -
sex the 10 by topping for 1 clone and take a second from each plant at bottom only 1 month into veg = 2 clones from each plant then throw them direct into flower for sexing

obviously throw away the males

by now i hopefully have about 5 females - and need to pick phinotype
the 5 females should be about 7 weeks old by now-

i want to take 60 clones from the 5 females - put them direct into flower=SOG in flowwering room #1

3 or 4 weeks into flower i want to take the 60 flowering plants and take a clone from a lower branch of each to get another 60 clones into flowering room #2

so for the second batch i will be cloning from plantd in flower - reason, im not sure 5 moms will grow fast enough to give me 60 more clones in only 3 weeks and then again 4 weeks after that

after the first 60 in flower room #1 are harvested i will pick the best phino and replace mums with clones from the best of the 5 original mothers

object - to get both flower rooms active asap -

can you see easier method to go from seed to 120 total clones in warp speed?

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syze

Ive just been through the same situation.
I grew 5 plants from seed, after 14 days from Germ they were ready to Veg.
I veged them until I saw preflowers and this time it went extremely fast, all plants after 28 days of life are showing preeflowers, thats a a fast sign of maturation.. as then the clones will be a good age because plants that are older have more vigor and potency. and a clone is genetically the same age as her mother.
What i do is like you said, the bottom four branches that i remove from the lower stem to open up and allow air to circulate better through the plants, are what i made my clones from.
This was my first time cloning, and took me about a 3 weeks to see roots.
But there is a reason, I was following some tips by some growers who say to scrape the outer layer of skin away to show the layer that produces roots, and it didnt work well, that part of the stem totally dreid out, i noticed that after 1 wek because i broke a peat pot open to see whats up, no ROOTS only dead stem.
I decided not to throw them away and said o well its my first time. You know what i did? I pulled them out re cut them and redipped in clonex and stuck them again.
Yesterday i check them, and the roots are busting out. they have been off a plant for 3 weeks before they rooted and they still rooted.
But anyway my few tips are like this.
The way you have planned is fine, but take only 2 clones a day from each plant from the lower nodes, you dont want to stress the plantssince you want to set them into flower short there after.
If you do decide to take 4 - 6 clones when they are so young then give them 3 or 4 days after taking the clones to allow the plants to rebuild itself and then send em to flower.
Humidity is the number 1 factor, dont spray the plants too often, about 3 to 4 times a day, the medium only lightly moist and not drenched.
Also the humidity is at 90% or higher so youll need a dome for that.
Ive had my success from cloning (with mistakes) most people dont have this kind of success with such problems, with Clonex. Excellent excellent. Just make sure to also be careful with rooting hormones, wash hands etc.. they arevery dangerous to animals and humans.
Good luck and cant wait to see your clones !!

syze

i missed a big thing, i wouldnt go at that rate of getting 120 clones unless you are ready to accept a deminished harvest in the first rounds ..
Your going to be taking too many tips from the plants. its possible but I personally wouldnt take clones from flowering, if you want to pick up speed sprout more seeds, if you keep taking tips from flowering plants your going to lose that time you want because theyll have to root, hardest part in a plants life and then revert back to veg, ouch what stress, product willl not be superiour. IMO

bagabones73

im not so concerned with cloning method- i have an ez cloner and chiller so im set there

more interested in how fast or whats fastest way to get large# of clones from seeded plants

i could just take veg to 120 clones from 12 plants =10 per plant and throw away the males ending in hopefully 60+ female clones then choose the best phyno to make moms

or i could take 4 from young plants = 60 (which i can do nowor soon) to sex the plants - get rid of males , obtain info on best phyno , get a liitle smoke a little sooner ending at 30 females +/- and an opertunity to shed my errors before entering into larger scale mistake

i have descided to go with the second- going to take 4 clones from each. flower them asap - after another 8 weeks veg on seeded plants i will then take clones again only this time best phyno becomes new moms and the rest go to flower -
the following grow will end in clones from best pheno

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syze

Sounds good my friend, I wish you all the success.
I would say take the clones like you decide, either 4 per plant or 10 per plant,
and let them root. What im getting at is you wont have to sex your clones since as soon as your roots have fully rooted, ready for transplant into a final destination, your mothers of These clones should be displaying their gender. Always look between certain nodes to find the preflowers the soonest, count 4 nodes up from base of plant or 3 nodes down from top of plant and in this area you should find the first signs of sex " im assuming the plants are at least 40 days old from seed. Through this you can save yourself sometime without having to sex the clones.
good luck -syze-

mattdreads

the more light the faster they'll grow.

sounds like a good plan. I was able to get over 60 clones from one plant with not even a 7 week veg, but they were pretty small clones.

split 5 ways, and given 7 weeks, I'm sure you'll reach your goal. just keep the moms healthy and dark green, that's the key to successful cloning in my humble opinion.

good luck.

Pesci

and take the clones in veg, don't wait till flower. that may slow them down if it is too far into flower like a month or so .

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Why dont you top your freshly germed/vegged seedlings when they are ready and then keep the tops growing in a veg room (or flower room 2 for time being). Mark which is which of course. Put the topped plants into flower and cull your males. Go back to the clones in veg and cull males accordingly. Now you might have 6 plants in flower and 6 tops/moms in veg. While your plants in flower grow out youll be able to see which ones grow best for your likings. Doing it this way will let you somewhat narrow down the phenotype of your liking and in the mean time your clones in veg (the tops/moms) will get large enough where you will be able to take plenty of clones and fill both rooms. Just a thought.

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mattdreads

usually after topping I think it's best to give another 5 to 7 days of growth before flowering.

just me.

Swapmeet

This is how I do it..... top each plant a couple weeks into veg and flower the tops. They will be a tad premature, but it will tell you sex.....cull the males and clone the females at will, by this time the original plants will be over a month old and sexually mature, you can go from there. Also, matt is right when he suggests using a good light over your moms to enhance the clone numbers.

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