smokinrav

I dont know where or when the info became law, but Im here to tell you that its no harder to clone a flowering plant than it is to clone a vegging plant. In fact, Im running at about an 80% success rate, same as from my clone mother.
Can anyone explain the facts behind problems associated with cloning a flowering plant?

quantumhydro

Yo Smokin
None really u can clone right up to the end of the flowering period the futher u go in the longer the clone will take to root an when it does it gets more bushier a flowering head turns into a miniture conifer loads of branches .
Keep on tokin QHC

lilbuddie

That about it .... With my clones I want them to root as fast as possible. I have had to wait for an extra 2 weeks (tops) for a clone that was taken from the mum in first 2 weeks of flowering compared to clones that were taken prior ro flowering and I only had to wait for about 5-7 days

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bgetting

You are all great... and you can clone up until the end. It is mostly a matter of energy allocation. If you clone a flowering plant,it is trying to put energy into flowering and rooting, so you get a longer rooting time. You also have to wait longer for the plant to revert to vegetative growth. As an annual, marijuana doesn't like this, and it could (though it could not) mess with which genes the plant turns on or off.

bgetting

I don't know if anyone wants to try it, I did once, and it worked pretty well, I just haven't tried again since.

If you take a ton of clones from a veggin plant, put them in a jar of water (like a bouquet) overnight in the dark, then use whatever rooting chemical (rootone, olivias...) and put them into rockwool cubes. I then put the 1" cubes into the 4" cubes, and let them sit under fluoro for 24 hrs. Then I put them under my HPS at a 12/12 cycle. They root while they are switching ove to flowering. You end up with plant that just grow one top bud. My clone were ~6-8" tall at clipping, and I had approx. 1 6" long bud of each one at the end of flowering. Since they are small, and the cubes are square, you can pack them in under the light (I had ~60). All you do is water the cubes every few days,and that is that.

This has been outlined in HT, and it works well, except that you have a ton of plants, and that is never good if you get caught.

wolfman

Generally, i agree with the idea but in real life, the time for the plant to revert will deppend on her own genetics, on the individual itself, and not some generic rules...

Either we consider that the clone roots wile flowering (Do they?????) and therefore you can clone anytime or it is considered that they will only root efficiently wile vegging and so, why using the flowering clones?????

Flowering adds a monster streess to the plants, they are supposed to die after, they are prepared to give it all in the next few months, the simple fact that you force a plant to revert may lead her to hermie or another strange behaviours...


wolf

smokinrav

Wolfman said:
Either we consider that the clone roots wile flowering (Do they?????) and therefore you can clone anytime or it is considered that they will only root efficiently wile vegging and so, why using the flowering clones?????

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Ive cloned plants flowering for 5 weeks, just to see if I could. Stress did not seem to have any effect on the resulting harvest, compared to the original, but since most of my seeds grow seeded bud, I cant say for sure if they hermied more than normal. Its getting me just as stoned, as I speak.....

Smokin

bgetting

You can clone at any time during the life cycel, it is just a matter of how much energy the plant can give. If it is flowering, it will ease it's energy allocation to flowering in order to put some energy into rooting. Likewise, when it is vegging, it will stop producing new leaf tissue until it has grown roots.

robyoung

bgetting..........
How about these 60 plants?
What sort of weight did u get from them all, was the smoke ok? i was thinkin of doin that very thing marsulf.

I often wonder about that sorta stuff.
The best I have done in a 4 foot sq. grow area is 1 pound over about 31/2 months.4oowatt sont agro
Actaully, it would have ben about 2 months,as the first part was under fluros.
Then i thought about the concept u was chattin ;bout.
I have a theorie, that u will grow "x" amount of pot per grow space, given the same conditions, such as light, co2, temp,, nutrient ect. ect. no matter what u do.
But I m willing to try a new thing.

I have been diagnosed with death.
I dont want to go into it, but I wanted to try to do a thing or two 'fore i go, and that was one of them; although, it's not the only thing I want to do, and so I dont want to waste time on a theory that I don't know anything about.

u are the first person I have met who hs done such as u say, what do u reckon? was it a better yeild?
was it good smoke?
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bgetting

The herb was the same as the same clones I grew the time before, and the weight was about the same. I maxed out at around 10 oz. per hervest under the 430 Son Agro. I found that I get the same when I do a few large plants or a ton of smaller plants. There was a lot less crap to sort through on the small ones though, since each one was just a nugget in a rockwool cube.