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Old 08-14-2004, 03:09 AM   #1
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So the results are in. My experiment to determine whether a clone with the bottom bit shaved roots faster than an unshaved clone has ended. I did this little experiment to see if maybe cleaning the stem would 'shave' a day off my cloning time.

The following clones were taken on August 4th:

10 - 6" clones from strain 'Black Domina' into Rapid Rooters (RR)

I split them into two groups of five. One group had the bottom half inch (1.25cm) cleaned off with the razor. The cutting was dipped into rooting hormone and put into a RR plug.

The second group was cut at an angle, dipped in rooting hormone and placed into RR plugs.

Each plug was put into a 3" netpot and covered with Hydroton. Both groups were set into cloning trays filled 1/2" with water and a soaker hose was added to aerate the water. The groups were about 4" away from a single 4' floro.

On August 8th, root bumps were observed on most clones.

On August 12th, roots were finally reaching out of the netpot on 2 of the shaved clones and three of the unshaved ones.

On August 13th, all clones were removed from the netpots and roots were compared.

Of the 5 shaved clones:
Two had excellent root formation
One had minimal rooting
One had a single root protruding from the plug
One had no visible roots

Of the 5 unshaved clones:
Two had excellent root formation
Two had good rooting
One had a single root protruding

So the unshaved clones did slightly better than the shaved ones. But since the difference was so minimal, I cannot say whether any real advantage was gained by shaving or not. More trials with higher numbers of clones would be needed to draw any real conclusions. Since there is no noticable difference: it's gonna be cut, dip and plant for now.

Now for the photos.
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Old 08-14-2004, 03:12 AM   #2
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Photo #1.) All clones on August 4th after they were taken. The clones on the left are shaved and the ones on the right are not.

Photo #2.) The two shaved clones with the most roots on August 12th.

Photo #3.) The three unshaved clones with the most roots on August 12th.
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Old 08-14-2004, 03:15 AM   #3
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Photo #4.) The shaved clones after being removed from the netpots.

Photo #5.) The unshaved clones after being removed from the netpots.

Photo #6.) Side by side (or root by root) comparison of the roots. The top row is the shaved clones, the bottom is the unshaved.
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Nice stuff man Something else to consider is heeling ur plants, my personal experience is heeling knocks about two days of rooting time compared to straight cut. BTW will have some pics up tomorrow in my litle experiment Kiwi
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What is heeling? I did a search and nothing came up explaining it.
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I got roots on the part I didnt shave, the shaved part died and the roots came out from the green stem. Just the way my clones went
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So you just split the bottom of the stem?
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are the shaved clones cut at a 45 degree angle aswell as the none shaved?
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that is the way i have been doing mine(shaved and angle cut)
all attempts have survived good thread by the way.

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are the shaved clones cut at a 45 degree angle aswell as the none shaved?
Both were supposed to be cut straight-ish. But since I lost the third arm it's hard to do it perfectly straight but I honestly don't think that a straight cut vs 45 deg cut would make a big difference.
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