MTNugJar

question. Maybe I;m the only one that didn't know this but

I just heard this and it really knocked me over.
Want to confirm whether or not it's true.

Question...

Was told psychoactive chemicals in bud are transformed when you add heat.

For instance.

If you had two identical fully cured buds.

You just eat one - you get high.

You bake one in some cookies etc. the heat from baking releases or transforms chemicals and you end up with a MUCH stronger high.


I thought heat killed THC. IE direct sunlight during curing.

Could someone please... and im not trying to be a smart ass, tell me what happens to chemicals throughout flowering to cure to burn?

IE

CBD and CBN to THC then burn to blah blah blah....

thanks in advance.

schoolteacher

I have heard that warming up a J can make it better because the THC can exit the J without being superheated by fire. Kind of like the way a vaporizer works. About the brownies, were they warm? I don't think you want to process the buds with any kind of heat but when you are ready to smoke, having a good understanding of how THC is released can really change the whole smoking experience.

potpower

i heard that before apparently digesting takes in more thc than inhaling because its in the belly longer

rockclimber

*sigh*
Eating raw bud will not get you high.

"Actually, THC acid and the other
necessary cannabinoid acids are not psychoactive until they
decarboxylate (lose an acidic carboxyl group [COOHI).
It is the cannabinoid acids which move along the biosyn-
thetic pathway, and these acids undergo the strategic reac-
tions that determine the position of any particular canna-
binoid molecule along the pathway. After the resins are
secreted by the glandular trichome they begin to harden
and the cannabinoid acids begin to decarboxylate. Any
remaining cannabinoid acids are decarboxylated by heat
within a few days after harvesting"


You must make canna butter to make brownies to get high. THC must dissolve in fat for your body to absorb it.

potpower

thats not my experience

OzGrowa

I have eaten a mouthfull of my rawbud and it didnt get me high at all, from a chemistry perspective Rockclimber is totally correct, without the expiration of the carboxyl acids you get nada.

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ShowNgrowDro

really? i thought only way to consume bud through the stomich and actually getting high is you have to heat it... (to activate the cannabnoids"... i dunno the spelling.. but yea.. thats what i heard.. heat the bud before you eat..

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HarryPothead

"When smoked, THC is rapidly absorbed into the blood and distributed first to the brain, then redistributed to the rest of the body, so that within 30 minutes much is gone from the brain. The psychological and cardiovascular effects occur together , usually within 5 to 10 minutes. The THC remaining in the blood has a half-life of about 19 hours, but metabolites (of which there are at least 45) primarily 11-hydroxy-delta-9- THC, are formed in the liver and have a half-life of 50 hours. After one week, 25 to 30 percent of the THC and its metabolites might still remain in the body. Complete elimination of a large dose of THC and its metabolites might take 2 or 3 weeks. THC taken orally is slowly absorbed, and the liver transforms it to 11-hydroxy-delta-9-THC; therefor, much less THC reaches the brain after oral ingestion, and it takes much longer for it to have psychological effects.
The high lipid solubility of THC means that it (like its metabolites) is selectively taken up and stored in fatty tissue to be released slowley. Excretion is primarily through the feces..."
The marijuana you eat does not have to be mixed with a lipid substance to be absorbed. What it means is that remaining THC is stored in the lipid (fatty) portions of your body. Therefor, like it said it is excreted in your feces.

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Mhoram420

Non-psychoactive THC acids are secreted from the plant in the form of trichomes - basically just tiny drops of goodness forming on the tip of a spear like aparatus.

Over time, the THC acids decarboxylate, becoming the THC which gets you high. Heat facilitates this process, allthough it will occur at room temperature, during the flower's natural maturation process.

Incidentally, the need to decarboxylate is why fresh kif is pressed and heated before it is called hash. A bowl of "raw" trichomes isn't half as strong or tasty as a patty of pressed hash.

Small amounts of the psychoactive THC will transform to CBN and CBD as the bud gets older. Higher concentrations of CBN/CBD give you the "couchlock" high. Harvest early for the speedier, up high and late for the narcotic, down high.

If allowed to overripen, many of the trichomes will actually burst and the good stuff will simply evaporate.

During the cure, a small amount of additional THC will transform to CBN/CBD. Also, clorophyl breaks down (removing the "green" taste) and the aromatic terpenes begin to mature. Terpenes are what produce most of the rich smell associated with MJ.

When you smoke the bud, the heat of combustion vaporizes the THC and delivers it to your blood stream through the lungs.

To get off eating bud, the THC (which isn't water soluble) must first be dissolved in an oil - butter, olive oil or virtually any fat. Consuming the oil allows THC to be delivered to the blood stream through the stomach and intestinal tract.

You could heat your bud to facilitate decarboxylation, but watch the temperature closely. THC evaporates at 185-195 degrees.

Unfortunately, the plant matter which our THC is attached to burns at anywhere from 500-600 degrees. Smoking a bowl actually destroys far more THC than it delivers to your lungs.

This is why people use vaporizers. A vaporizer heats the plant matter to around 200 degrees - warm enough to turn the THC to vapor but not warm enough to ignite the plant. The hits are stronger from smaller amounts of weed. Until you have tried vaporizing, you really won't believe how fried you can get from just a pinch of bud.

OzGrowa

Great posts people, I think thats answerred all the q's

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