rockclimber

rum would work, but i would use 151 at the least, and better with everclear. find everclear somehow

TecHnoCult

I think you could use 80 proof rum, it would just be less efficient and would leave behind residue from the rum. I think it would probably taste okay.

You could use female bud, but I think it would be a waste. You would get more, but not enough to justify it. I just don't think it is that effecient.

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cigaweed4me

okay when i double boiled the solution i think i let it get too hot because i tried to smoke some of the liquid and it didn't do $hit. At what setting do you guys recommend putting the stove at and for how long do you let it double boil??? Please inform me so that i dont make the same mistake twice

TCC

for a LONG time, until it is a gooey substance......
I haven't made it yet, but I am gonna....
thing is, boil it as much as you can, and than leave it out, spread it out on a tray and leave a fan on it.
Eventually, only the goodness will be left AFTER all the alcohol is *boiled-out* or evaporated

After I boil, gonna let it sit out for a few days to make SURE I am only smoking oil.......bad enough I can't even stomach the taste of alcohol!

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pyrogenesis

So much discussion on where to get everclear....

You don't have to use Everclear. Yes, Bacardi 151 would work just fine, but realize that because it is only 151 proof that means that it is 25% water. So you are going to extract all kinds of water soluble impurities along with your hash. In the end it won't be as potent, but will still be good stuff.

But why spend so much money on everclear? Government taxes on alcohol effectively double (or more) the price that you pay. How can one get around that? Just use denatured ethanol. This is simply ethanol that has either a little methanol or ethyl acetate mixed in it so that it is not suitable for drinking (if you drink it you will die, or if your lucky, only go blind). Because it can't be drank there is no tax. Plus, it is 99% pure, whereas Everclear is only 95%.

They sell 1 gallon jugs of dennatured ethanol in the paint aisle at Home Depot or any other hardware store. This ends up costing you about $2.50 per liter ($9 for a gallon; 1 gallon=3.78 liters) rather than $20.

i just finished making a batch of hash using denatured ethanol, and it is phenominal!

pyrogenesis

On another note....

has anyone ever tried using butane to make hash? This is supposed to yeild a much more pure, golden-honey colored resin, rather than the dark brown/green hash obtained from extracting with ethanol. I am planning on trying it with my next crop, but I am still a little skeptical.

The procedure is described in detail at http://leda.lycaeum.org/Documents/Ha...ne.12571.shtml

Also, does anyone have or know where to find solubility data on THC?

puffajoint

1st of all Im not very familiar with it, and 2nd I dont know if Id be too trusting smoking anything that came from a hardware store.

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pyrogenesis

Puffajoint,

denatured ethanol is just ethanol (everclear) that has a small amount of either ethyl acetate or methanol added to it.

Ethyl acetate and ethanal are natural byproducts of ethanol metabolism. In other words, your body naturally metabolizes ethanol into ethyl actate in the process of clearing the alcohol from your system. Interestingly, ethyl acetate is a poison, and is one of the main causes of hangovers. I'm sure some of you have heard of the drug Antabuse (disulfiram). This is an aversive treatment for alcoholism that causes alcoholics (or anyone who takes it) to get extremelly ill and nauseated if they drink alcohol. It works by preventing the breakdown of ethyl acetate, and the resulting buildup of ethyl acetate in the body causes the nausea.

Methanol is very similar to ethanol physically. But physiologically they are quite different. Methanol can be fatal if consumed, with lesser exposure resulting in blindness. It is kind of interesting that the treatment of methanol ingestion is to drink ethanol. The ethanol competes with methanol for catalytic sites and slows the metabolism of methanol into its dangerous byproducts.

The purpose of adding these compounds to ethanol is to make it not consumable, and thus avoid the obscene taxes on alcohol intened for human consumption. So the moral of the story is, while one would not want to drink denatured ethanol, it is perfectly fine (in fact better - cheaper and purer) for use in making hash. The resulting hash is purer than if you used regular alcohol. Because regular alchohol has more water in it, you end up getting all of the unwanted water soluble portions of the plant in your hash along with the "good stuff," and it makes the hash harsher.

I have made hash with denatured ethanol many times. Since you evaporate/ boil off all of the solvent anyway, it is not a big deal if the ethanol was denatured. They sell denatured ethanol in the painting aisle of most hardware stores.

TecHnoCult

pyrogenesis,

Thank you for taking the time to explain that. I enjoy this approach to explaining things on this site. You made me feel much more confident about using denatured ethanol next time. Now, I appreciate your knowledge, but where does it come from? Do you have a background in something related or is this something you have studied on your own?

I am definately open to trying something less expensive than Everclear. I just couldn't bring myself to use isopropyl.

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reno1

Ok, I just finished, I put about an once of stems and about 10 grams of bud in a bowl with everclear, and covered with foil.I took it out in an hour and already it's very blackgreenish in color! I'd post pics but they always say pic to big? I'm gonna wait 4 days. The bottle of everclear was only $10.50 no tax! I live on an Army post! So I boil it till when? Or just for an hour? I'm also thinking of getting two of my buddies together and trying that green dragon sh@t!! Oh ya, I don't grow my plants, I live in the states, I get my **** in 10 pound bricks, will this make a diffrence?

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