Spaventa

I was looking through old pics of past grows and found this

A C99 clone aborted at 5 weeks flower. despite needing another 2 weeks, it was actualy very smokable when dried...
I was scared it was gonna hermi cos it was a new strain to me of uncertain quality and I didn't want to take a chance.

I did some guestimates based on it dry weight of 3g and I think that had that had another 2 weeks and swollen and matured properly, I would have been looking at 4 or 5 grams. I worked out that I could fit 300 per meter, straight from the aeroprop, 5" tall, under a 600w HPS which should yield 1500g after 7 weeks 12/12 if i get 5g each - which would be insane but logical i think cos your growin almost pure bud and no other plant matter, almost. Like SOG but taking the idea to the exstreme with a suitable pheno.

The one i showed didn't grow vegetively whatsoeverr - it just went mad and showed trichs after 1 week of 12/12


other strains Ive had just flower as usual, stretching first and finishing 2-3 times the height you started at, which is what the C99 usualy does but NOT if it has insufficient root, I deduce. SO if you force it to flowr with none hardly, it skips the stretch COMPLETELY and finishes a week early at the same size only covered in bud...
If i can replicate the growth on the clone by the bottle, on mass and let them finish, I could break all my previous best yields.
The reason I think this would work is that the reason it grew bud from top to bottom on that twig is cos it was short enough for the HPS to penetrate top to bottom and I think this would still be the case had i planted loads close together, like 2" x 2" per plant, the light would still penetrate well enoughto ensure incredible calyx to leaf ratio - look at mine that was pulled early - you can see how little leaf was on it and how little root too.
Thoughts anyone?

n_d_shadows

300 per meter like that? doesnt quite seem worth the 300plant sentencing if busted. Id cut it in half and allow 1 week of veg, then have something to show for it.

Maybe if that is the way you want to go, a Rotogrow is more up your alley

Spaventa

Do you realy thing that 1 square meter of vegitation, 6" high is going to incur "300 plant sentencing"? I'm pretty sure that when they hand out 5 year sentences to growers with 300 plants, those 300 plants fill a house, not a shoe cupboard from the floor upto the height of the skirting board and I bet they run more than 600w which is all i'd be prepared to venture on the theory till its proven. It would in theory be a hedge type, but shallow enough for the lights to penetrate top to bottom so zero fluff, scruff and branching.
My standard practise for the last year has been 16 clones per meter (9 sq ft) per 600w light and standard yield with Apollo 11 (original bro grimm) is 500g after 2 weeks rooting in the aero and a week in the blocks before 6 weeks 4 days flower...so this super dense SOG is pure speculatio at the moment..

Ripcord

Rationalize it any way you want. You still have to ask yourself if you trust the "man" to do the right thing. I don't. Most of them will try to screw you any way they can.

Cool SOG idea tho.

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Spaventa

Lets be frank - the likelyhood of getting caught at all, correlates to the size of the grow...in REAL terms, lights, fans, noise, smell, supplies/people coming in and out...
A 600w, 9' x 9' x 6" can't be taken as anything more than growing 1 big plant...I live in the u.k...it's a pretty rough justice system here but not that bad that they'd nail you like drug barron for growing a kg and a half (if the theory works) or maybe 200g if it doesn't - they can't screw you big time for growing with a 600w light - I'm good (0.91 g/w, 1.54g/kwh PB) but I'm not that fucking good

n_d_shadows

A seedling is considered a plant. If there are 300 plants in there, regardless of how much space they take up its still 300 plants.

1 plant taking up 1sq meter (apart from being impressive) tho is just 1 plant..



Lets look at it this way also, how will you acquire 300 plants? growing moms and cloning or buying from a source? 300 clones in rotation will have you sitting on 600+ rooted plants on the occasion....
ok, sorry Im not looking to be a dick, but thats the truth of it.

Now as for is it possible, I think if you want to get away with a 60 gallon reservoir for that many plants, the best way to go is NFT using 4" pvc pipe spaced 10" on centers, with plants spaced every 10".

SkierGuy23

Some states bust you on the weight of the plant matter and not the number of plants. If you are only worried about the state and not the federal level and you live in one of those states then I'd say this is a great way to grow. As stated above, you will have a tough time getting that number of clones though.

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Spaventa

Nd shadows - I have been running Nutriculture NFT tanks under 600w sodiums for the last 12 months, and Ive tried various denstity of planting from 1 to 3 plants per foot. I know how well I can do with conventional SOG - about 600g per 600w light. this is about MICRO plants as seen in the picture in the first post.

About plant numbers
I can only tell how it works in the u.k where the legal system does aplly common sense. number of plants is only relevant in the british legal system for helping determine thw scale of the grow. However, plant number is not the only factor as we all know it can be misrepresentative.
You seem to be under the impression that plant number is the only concideration in determinig wether a person is growing for personal use or for dealing. Its not. If you grew 6 massive plants in the u.k, under 2000 w you would be in serious shit but if you had 300 plants that all fit inside a shoe cupboard under a single 600w light, you'd be done for growing only because its self eveident that its a tiny grow.

n_d_shadows

You're right, in my state which ever gets you the higher penalty is what they will use. In this case, a 300 plant charge would bring a higher penalty then their combined weight.
Not saying this is how its done all over, just what I am conditioned to work within. plant #'s low, try for highest possible per yield.

Appears this is not the case for you and in that respect, good for you and your grow.
Best of luck with it

Lollie

I seem to remember they ( ) have a "standard" for each plant. I don't remember exactly what that standard is but I'm fairly certain is over 1 lb per plant. So, if you have 300 tiny plants, it doesn't matter. You will still be prosecuted for growing 300 lbs, no matter how small-or large they are, and that equals trafficing. They just go by plant #'s and their standard. That's why I started growing trees. Just trying to keep you out of trouble.

All the best,
Lollie

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