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Old 04-17-2008, 12:05 PM   #1
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Training Skunks with Chains and Sticks

I've used a Trellis Training technique for some time now. I've described it in previous threads. A day or two ago it hit me, I could get more flexible training if I replaced my horizontal supports with double-loop chains. So I tried it. I like it.

Included photos show an imporved Trellis Training method where plants can be maniplated to one inch horizontal increments vice the previous four inch.

I thought that some would be interested. Thanks for tuning in.
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This looks pretty cool, sadly ill be growing outside for ahwile, least till i get my own house, which does not look like it will happen for about 10 years.

quick question, once the plant reaches the next level of the chains, will you add more training dowels? or just move the ones from the bottom up?


im also very interested, in seeing the method all the way through your grow, so if you have a grow journal could you please link me, or update this thread as your babies grow in to big blossoming females

also great pictures and diagrams, very detailed and helpful
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Thanks for your comments hotpantsdan. I have a stack of dowels. I can make more.

I'll post again to the thread as we go up the cabinet. Yesterday I released all branches. Today I re-restrained the thickest stalks. This is an attempt to reduce stress on the lower, less developed branches.
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Moved from 1st Chain-Level to 2nd

Routine: Plants daily training routine is 'If I see a branch peaking high enough above the training canopy to move to the right, I move it to the right.'

I moved from 1st training tier to 2nd to relieve stress on the plants; concentrate training force on thick stalks; and expose weak branches to light.

Plan: It is my hope that I will be able to train all branches and stalks to this 2nd chain-level. If that cannot be done because of particularly thick stalks, I'll try relieving 2nd level training stress by re-asserting force on the 1st level. If that cannot be done, I'll move to the next, 3rd, chain-level.
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I trained a skunk to stay out of my woodpile with a stick. Maybe I should try a chain next time . . .

This looks cool. Its like Scrog but with chains .. like a . . likea . . .ChOG
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Isn't this growing 'stadium' but with chains and another level And the hassle of moving chains up? In fact, I'm confused why anyone would want the aggro?

Kudos for anyone with the patience though
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Thanks Viagrow and Mr Burns.

Mr Burns, I'll have to look up Stadium. I hope that I don't have to move chains about. The back has chains in place and I hope that I will not require more chains in front.
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Stadium Screen

I did my homework. I think that Stadium refers to the shape of a screen in ScrOG. The stadium screen is shaped with a bow in the center.

I thought about letting the chain fall in a parabola and hence stadium shape, but preferred a taught plane to work with. To add continuous tension each chain is stretched by a spring where it attaches to the cabinet.

Thanks again, Mr Burns, for helping me clear that picture.
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Hey Scrub,

Very kewl idea and an interesting variant on your Trellis technique.

Do you find you are getting a lot of vertical movement in the chain? The advantage, as I see it, in using wooden frame to support your dowels is rigidity, i.e. the vertical force of the plant is held in check. It seems to me that the chains, being flexible, would eventually bow upward. Have you found this to be the case?

Also, how are you making so many 1/4" dowels? Do you purchase them or make them yourself?

I have a cab that is 2x4x5 and I think I might like to try this technique in my next grow. I had been thinking Scrog but I like the idea of being easily able to cull the males and what seems to be the incremental force that can be applied to the plant.

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The chains are pulled rigid by a spring

Thanks for your comments, smokey.

Each chain is fastened to the right of the cabinet with an expansion spring. This spring is so strong that I have to strain with both hands just to hook it to the cabinet sides. I would expect more bowing with the wooden crossbar than with the chain.

The drawing in the first post shows a good respresentation of the spring.

36 inch x 1/4 inch hardwood dowels cost about 88 cents each. I bundle them with a zip tie and whack-um off to 24" with a table saw.
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