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Old 07-28-2008, 10:57 AM   #41
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I top and prune my plants to train them. I think equating cutting oneself with a razor to topping a plant is a mistaken conception of biological processes. Plants are remarkably well equipped to deal with wounds through a process called compartmentalization. Healthy plants will suffer no ill effects from topping. Arguing about which method is the better or best of all the rest is laughable. Start your own "pinching" thread, mattdreads, and demonstrate what you are suggesting.

I'll do that when I get my indoor set-up ready.

but I do need to clarify, I never argued which method was better. I simply relayed information that I had read from a populair grow magazine. it said that toppping has a lot of downfalls, one of those including infection. strange to me that a world renouwn grower would say that if it was complete bogus...but who knows...he was a crazy australian hippie...

I'm far from experienced enough to be able to say which method is better, and I'm the first to admit that. I'm just sharing the information I read. as I mentioned earlier, this is my first actual grow WITHOUT using the "pinching" techinique. but regaurdless, I'm not for cutting or injuring your plant. I'm fully aware that cutting yourself is not the same as cutting a plant, it was an example. be it a poor one, it was meant as an example. I just type what I think, and don't think much past that. this is the internet, and I don't care enough. I still think it's got it's downsides.

I don't understand why you have to be so insulting with how you express your opinions. but for the record, I am laughable...so it's cool.

anyway, when I'm finally back indoors, I'll be sure to have a side by side, one pinched, one topped, one stem bent and one completely natural. I'd love to see the results for myself.
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Old 07-28-2008, 11:19 AM   #42
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I don't understand why you have to be so insulting with how you express your opinions. but for the record, I am laughable...so it's cool.

I believe that I called arguing about which method is better laughable, not you. There was no insult.

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Healthy plants will suffer no ill effects from topping. Arguing about which method is the better or best of all the rest is laughable.

Neither was I insulting you by suggesting that you start a new thread about your method. I offered up what I have learned from doing the same thing day in and day out for over 6 years now. The specific topic was topping and I have long been a practitioner in spite of all of the negative info floating around the internet. As has been said earlier, "There are many methods of training."
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Old 07-28-2008, 11:31 AM   #43
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I believe that I called arguing about which method is better laughable, not you. There was no insult.



Neither was I insulting you by suggesting that you start a new thread about your method. I offered up what I have learned from doing the same thing day in and day out for over 6 years now. The specific topic was topping and I have long been a practitioner in spite of all of the negative info floating around the internet. As has been said earlier, "There are many methods of training."




my apologese for the misunderstanding.

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Old 07-28-2008, 12:00 PM   #44
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This thread turned offensive quickly...... everybody take a hit....
and not to start a new one but CLONE>> That plant was not topped where the circle is ...... it was topped where your pinky is.....

I had to say it....
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Old 07-28-2008, 03:52 PM   #45
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um actually 1234growoutdoor it was not topped where the pinky is.. it was topped where the wounded part is. I know because its my plant! The reason it looks like that is becuase it was 'topped' or 'pruned' where the branching is alternating. It looks like a leaf is just missing or something, but trust me, that was a growth node, and when removed it caused the branch on the left and right of it to spring forward with growth.

And for shrubs... you said that when you have more growth points it slows down the growth because the plants energy is divided between all the shoots... that is completely wrong. when the plant has more shoots, it has MORE SOURCES of energy because it has more surface area exposed to light!!
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Old 07-28-2008, 04:09 PM   #46
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If i had not topped it here is what it would have looked like.

The branches on the left and right would not be that long... they would only be about where the scratched out red lines are. Instead there would only be 1 main shoot growing upwards, which is displayed in red.
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Old 07-28-2008, 04:22 PM   #47
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If i had not topped it here is what it would have looked like.

The branches on the left and right would not be that long... they would only be about where the scratched out red lines are. Instead there would only be 1 main shoot growing upwards, which is displayed in red.


yeah, I always thought that that was pruning. but I see in the post before this one ^ that you say "topping"or "pruning"

I thought they were two different things...

I stand corrected.
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topping or pruning.. whatever.. just cut the top growth off and it makes more branches. i guess people refer more to topping when dealing with plants before the branching starts to alternate.
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sorry clone i have to believe if you say..... but here is my reason for saying that.... here is one of my topped ultra skunk..... looks similar except i tie my mains and grow em laterally....... yours looked similar but vertical....... I'm still a noob about this open grow show we got goin on here......

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Now were all friends again.....

Here is a pic of her filling out..... oooooooooooo
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yea ur growth is not at the alternating stage where you topped it, thats why it looks different.
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