Dr. Funkenstein

Now, if I had a veg room and a flower room, and was only planning to SCRoG in flower, would it be neccessary to train the plants in veg how CamperDon did?

Or do I just let the plants grow up to the screen, the top will be haulted by the screen and the side branches catch up to level out at the screen/canopy? I train them if need be. Then they grow up through the screen evenly?

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nigel

some mistakes i made - having strains too vigorous that over ran slower varieties.

- weaving branches, then finding they were in the wrong place, it had kinked the stems.

- trying to fill every square and congesting myself

- having pots too far below screen so never heated up from lights.

- too many plants below screen to easily work on individual pots.

- trying to take plants in too many directions at once

Adapted as i have gone along, reducing plant numbers, hooking branches onto screen rather than weaving, training plants in a more open . My scrog now more a training aid for pots, than a scrog. lol

Once the top is halted, the laterals catch up doctor. best wishes nigel

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CamperDon

Good morning,

If I were going to scrog it would definitely be with only one (in the center) or two plants at opposite ends below a screen and like my LST training, i'd loosely tie the branches to the screen as they grew into it.
When the top of the plant gets to the screen I don't think it stops growing, it just conforms to say the ceiling and grows out in a different direction. The lateral side branching occurs along the way as the upper grow out. The same thing happens during bud growth, grows up a lil, stops and fattens up.. grows up a lil, stops and fattens up proportionally.
Other techniques could be implemented into the training such as "Pinching" the growing top forcing an excelleration in branch growth below (something not many here do anymore as they think it does something bad to the plant) not really, you lose that single big upper cola for two the same size or larger (at least in my experiences) depending on training method used. Of course with LST all the buds become scaled down but in abundance - ten fold.
I'm considering now going back to vertical growth for those larger single top cola' rather then the over abundance of scaled down ones.. or maybe grow both methods each one has its place..
I have noticed some Ladies adapt to training much better than others as with this Blueberry strain I have that truely shows off the benefits of using this method. I'm now training in 5 gallon "short" nursery containers not for the height of the plant but, rather for the overgrown canopy. I've read elsewhere pretaining to "trees" in say your yard, when watering stand back and look at the outline of the trees foliage.. Where its outter edge of the overall canopy stops is the drip line for the "lateral" root system and where you should be watering out to, not just near the perimmeter of the trunk.
I believe the same would hold true to a marijuana plant as in a tree is a tree reguardless the strain. If you allow the root system to have more lateral growth than downward (as if using a 5 gallon tall bucket) I would think you'd get a much larger foliage footprint above soil. I might be wrong but, I don't feel as I am.. And my Blueberry shows me after a month or two train.
Well, i've rambled on for more then I wanted so, i'll stop now and go get another cup of coffee... Peace and all the above is just my opinion

Have a Great day
don

mikewho

So basically you are saying that you just let the plants "weave" themselves? You just aid in pushing them back under the screen....or fence in your case....and then let them find there way through the hole you want them to go through...and if they keep not going there, then you keep pushing em back under? This, I am guessing, is what causes lots of extra growth?

binxy

Exactly. It only takes the light pressure of the stem up against the screen and it grows in that direction... I mean it's easier if that branch is already growing in that direction than if you're trying to make it go in the opposite direction...

The way I understand it is the tallest bud is considered 'primary' by the plant and gets the most nutes/effort. By keeping all the buds at the same level (and exposing the lower branch buds to the light) the lower buds get more of the plant's energy than if it was in it's normal top-to-bottom orientation.... and you get to use the plant's normal stretch to spread it out under the screen and keep it all low/short.

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I am thinking of SCROG for my next grow, and found an old thread that was re-printed from an even older board (think Alt.Drugs newsgroup, this post is ancient by 'net standards) And it's got GREAT info! No pics, but what do you expect? it's been around a time or two.http://www.gardenscure.com/420/scrog...t-guide-i.html

And, the way I understand it is you have it right , mikewho- the plant is growing, getting longer- you can let that length go up, or make it go sideways along the screen, then let it go up when you want it too.

The link is very informative.

Great looking grow, BTW! I think I'm in love with SCROG already.

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