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"Lollypopping" (or "chicken legging") is an old pruning technique that has had several names over the years. The technique is simple... and most often used in SoG gardens. But lollypopping can be used in any garden where light penetration is weak (or impossible) at the lower canopy levels. Here is an example a full size plant that has been lollypopped most of the way: Notice how most of the lower branches are removed ... this leaves the upper branches to take full advantage of the light source. As we have all seen, the lower branches rarely amount to anything significant yield wise... especially in cola dominant SoG gardens where light penetration is very limited to the lower branches. Removing the lower growth allows the plant to focus that *extra* energy (it would have spent forming miniscule & airy buds) to the high yielding colas and primary branches.  For this example, we will use a SoG garden.  The flat we are lollypopping today is the middle one ... this flat is at 2 weeks flower. At this point, most of the stretch is over and you have a good idea of what branching is receiving a lot of light ... and which ones are not.  Close up of the plant bases before the procedure:  To lollypop, use a clean blade (or clean scissors) and simply remove the lower growth on the bottom 6" to 12" of the plant. My rule is that if I put a 8" clone into flower ... two weeks later, I remove the bottom 8 inches of growth.  Repeat the steps to all plants that are at two weeks flower ... and you have a "lollypopped" SoG flat  All the energy that was to be directed to growing small, airy buds ... will now be directed to the top of the plant   Yes ... it takes a few days for the plants to heal from the fresh wounds ... but they quickly forget about the damage and will repay you for your foresight later  Here is the small pile of trimmings from all six plants: If you have a larger plant, do not take too much at one time. Taking too much may send the plant into shock and actually hurt yields instead of helping them. Maven 
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| Well slap me sideways and call me Dorthy! Thanks for the step-by-step Maven.
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10-08-2009, 03:25 AM
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| i'll stay passive and merely point  "Dorthy_Ryder!" another great guide ...and such yummy lady models  thanks Pen
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Interested in your timing of the prune, would agree that post stretch seems the optimal time. The contribution of the lower canopy to overall plant growth, up to that point , is I think important. Lou put up a figure of 65% of the plant's energy to the top, and 35% to secondaries, so logic would tell you cutting out secondaries would put 100% to the tops. However the production of that energy, might have a similar equation attached, so that the secondaries produce 35% of total energy, so removing them takes away that contribution. Don't want to do that until the plants structure for flowering is established, post stretch. Up until then, you want every bit of energy you can muster. best wishes nigel
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| excellent explanation Nigel! it's only after the stretch that i start to notice any slacking undergrowth  until then, there seems to not really be undergrowth to consider slacking lol and i don't dare try to choose the losers in advancebut the whole plant does seem to slack if i slack on the hacking  i just never thought of it mathematically even if it might be subconsciously systematic 
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| Good morning, I've been reading alot of threads lately about "wanting to clone while in flower" and "trim lower branch" to benefit upper cola's and am thinking of going ahead and removing the lower branches of a Bubblegum in flower now to aid the upper main and three secondary branches worth of cola's growth and see if I can get them to clone  These lower smaller branches do see light but aren't nearly as large as the upper ones and it wouldn't be a loss if they didn't root but, I hate removing branch work unless I can get a clone from it. Maybe i'll just leave em cause this group of Ladies have been in flower now for 42 days, almost done 30+ to go or so including flush week. Thanks MJ for pointing this method out and have a Great day don | ||
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10-08-2009, 12:51 PM
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| Maven, if you did lollipop that plant, why on earth did you leave all of those lower secondary branches on? My understanding of Lollipopping or chicken legging is that you Strip/remove All growth up to a certain extent. That point being where the lights penetration leaves the secondaries far far behind the primary growing tips in terms of formation. otherwise, it looks to me like you just did a light trimming.. | ||
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If you look at the first group shot ... that 4 footer in the back right of the garden (same pheno) was started as an 8" clone I do remove the lower branches on other strains ... just not the one pictured Does that make sense?Hope so Maven
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10-09-2009, 05:26 AM
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pic 1 - sophie before pic 2 - after pic 3 - Ashar before pic 5 - after pic 4 - delilah before pic 6 - after pic 7 - a girl kicked out of scrog for having a testicle. Have to ask HAL my computer about numbering; he is having one of those nights. lol nigel
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