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Old 04-10-2002, 07:45 AM   #1
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My position change on Supercropping
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Ive decided to adopt Delta9420s LST (Low Stress Training)for my next grow of Rosetta Stone clones. After observing my clone mother plant trained that way (and if the full flower room of RS clones goes just as well) Ill change to that style of initial training permanently. Ill still call it Supercropping, because there are so many ways of promoting axial growth, and its the secondary round of tieing that creates the flat canopy of colas.

Just wanted you all to know I think Deltas method achieves the exact same results with far less work or delay in growth, compared with the method I describe in my, "Happy Thanksgiving to me....." journal.

Heres Deltas thread, explaining the process

http://www.hempcultivation.com/420/s...&highlight=LST

Heres my clone mother plant

http://www.hempcultivation.com/420/s...t=clone+mother

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Old 04-10-2002, 08:47 AM   #2
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What advantage do you see from training the mother plant? Since
you're just taking cuttings from it, it wouldn't matter what
shape it is, would it?

I guess keeping it that shape helps you fit it in your veg chamber.
Spreading it out allows it to use fluoro light better too,
I s'pose.

Maybe you get a better selection of growth sites from which to
take clones?

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thanks for answering an unasked question that i had floating around in my head. i read both threads pretty well, and am coming upon the stage needed to start the whole training application. for the past couple days i kept thinking of what technique i would choose. yours or deltas? i was leaning toward yours because i wanted to try that whole 'twist and tie' method you use with the stem. i have tried the supercrop thing before, and the stem looks all CrAzY when it is twistend and knarled-like that...it just looks cool. i AM interested in yield, so if it is purely a choice you make that all things being equal, delta's method would provide me with more bud than your method...then i'll probably follow suit and pattern my training after delta's method.

that said...i still think that twisted looking stem in your thread is the craziest looking thing on a mj plant. amazing how it can be that phu%#ed up and still grow and abundance of flowers. i'll probably just try both ways...maybe after i take clones.
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What advantage do you see from training the mother plant? Sinceyou're just taking cuttings from it, it wouldn't matter what
shape it is, would it?

I guess keeping it that shape helps you fit it in your veg chamber.
Spreading it out allows it to use fluoro light better too,
I s'pose.
Well, the goal of the clone mother was even size cuttings (and large ones at that) and a single cola plant wouldnt be the logical choice. The training technique I use halts vertical growth, but the growth from the branching below the tip was never as even as I wanted. The LST appears to make the lower branching all grow at the same pace. This may have something to do with the strain Im using as well.

Correct. Eventually, she'll live under just 60 (3x20)watts of fluoro in about a 20" x 12" mother chamber.

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i was leaning toward yours because i wanted to try that whole 'twist and tie' method you use with the stem. i have tried the supercrop thing before, and the stem looks all CrAzY when it is twistend and knarled-like that...it just looks cool

i'll probably just try both ways...maybe after i take clones.
That crazy looking stem looks cool I know, but it really does delay growth when having to heal from it. Several days longer than topping at least, judging by when the topped plants showed alternating nodes compared to when the tied ones did.

Try them both! You may just find a unique way of trainig your plants that you can share with us all

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I'm still trying to figure out when a good time to start all this is. How big? I know Delta9420 said at about 4 to 6 inches, but with some stretch and young plants, will this harm them? Anyone?
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As long as your gentle and gradual. 6" sounds like a fine height to start training. It should have five or six nodes by then

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I've managed to tie the tip of my plants to the base without stressing any of them. Will you be trying that or will you be tying them 90 degrees? I liked tying tip to base because it seemed axial growth developed faster.

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