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Old 03-06-2006, 02:53 PM   #1
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What up everyone

I was browsing another forum in our "down time", and they were talking about using a 1" screen (measurement of gap width) for better control over a 2". What do you guys think? I have seen countless journals/pix of 2" and was wondering about 1". Any help would be appreciated.

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I always used 1" chicken wire, or poutry cloth to the upper crust.
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IF it's your first scrog grow, you'll want smaller holes, cause it does allow for more control. Smaller holes make you tie more tops down, which is good practice.
After a few scrog grows, you can use larger holes.......they'll mainly be there to fasten something to, and not to guide the branches.
It's not the size of your holes, it how you use them
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I'm going to disagree. I would use the 2" holes. As you train the plants to the screen, you are pulling the plants back through the screen as they stretch. The 2" holes are going to be More forgiving toward the plant that trying to pull a branch back through a one inch hole.
I also think that the additional space between the individual colas allows for better air circulation and light penitration.
Ideally, you end up with a cola coming up in almost every hole in the screen.
If you use 1" holes, then I would think you would end up skipping holes in order to accomidate the growth of the plant.

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I agree.....however, pulling the plant back down through the screen makes for a hell of a time repositioning them, and you have to reposition them to get real good placement....and everyone makes mistakes, I made a million
If you secure the stem to the base of the screen, and train it underneath, you can reposition them without any hassle. Weaving through the screen is something I would only do after I had a strain completely dialed in. Not to say that you don't, but most new scrog growers aren't used to the method, so a failsafe or simplified method can be helpful in getting them some decent results the first time.
Two inch holes are not near enough to space colas out for circulation.....not if you fill every hole. Most my buds are two inches thick, if I have one in every hole of a 2 inch screen, my fan leaves would be crowded. Big no no.......and my lights are smalltime, pun intended

I totally agree that the larger the holes the better, check out the screen diy in my sig, every one of those holes is larger than 2 inches. Training below the screen, and using the screen mainly as something to fasten the branches to, is how I keep myself from commiting a branch to a hole, when I know it will have to move. It gives me more control over how full my screen is at the end, cause in the beginning, you never know what it's going to look like

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IMHO, 1"-2" whatever your comfortable working with. I dont quite understand pulling them up thru, part tho. All I ever did was to rearrange branches to different areas underneath the screen. I would use plant wire to hold them in a given area to fill that area. But I always had them pulling themselves up thru the screen, and basicly bud came growing up from underneath. Maybe I've been doing it wrong. Just keeping the hood right down to the screen top.
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Pulling the plant back through=. as you train the plant to the screen, the branches will grow up through the screen. So if you need to reposition it, you reach under the screen and pull it back under the screen.

I don't weave the plants into the screen, I pull them back under and reposition them. Then 21 days into flower, they are left to grow up through the screen.
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THanks guys, this is going to be my first grow. I think I will go w/ the 2" and then see what to do after that.

Smalltimer- how much head room do you have in your cab? That seems like alot of training (during flowering)

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Sorry, don't know how I missed this.
I don't currently have a grow going. I moved about 2 months back and now I'm in an apartment, and it just isn't going to happen in this place.
Before I was growing in a closet, so I had 8' of head room.
The idea behind training for the first 21 days of flower is that the plants do most of their stretching during the first three weeks, then they kinda settle in and bulk up.
I also am a beleiver in flowering clones if you are going to be growing scrog style. I take these at the same time that I do my final training. At that point, I know if there are any branches that aren't going to fit to the screen, or maybe it is a lower branch that isn't reaching the screen.
One of the benifits of flowering clones is that they thend to have a huge about of branching that happens. So, you don't take as much time get the screen part way filled before flipping your lights to 12/12

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