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Old 07-11-2008, 06:06 PM   #21
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ozone is just oxygen with an extra molecule attached, the extra molecule wants nothing more that to break off, it does that when there is another molecule to attach itself to, such as an oder molecule. then whats left is just oxygen, and not extra oxygen, then same oxygen, that was in the room before the ozone generator attached the extra molecule to it. I would say talk to more people about using ozone, this guy above me seems to have used way to much.
I know its a lot of ozone I have plenty of experience using all variations of concentration of the stuff... I used to have have an adjustable generator that puts out 25- 300 mg/hr (broke on me) and also have another generator that puts out somewhere in the market of 75 mg/hr.

Ozone is approved by the FDA for uses in public spaces at concentrations at or below .05 ppm. ! Only .05 PPM! Thats barely anything, and nowhere near enough to kill the odor of At concentrations as low as .5 ppm extended exposure could cause lung edema!!! Also some generators (not all) put out nitric oxides as well as ozone, which just as harmful as the ozone itself (dont get a cheap generator or build one yourself!)

Let me tell you, if you can smell it (that bleachy/ fresh rain smell) your at risk of damaging your lungs. Just because its oxygen with an extra molecule attached doesnt make everything hunky dorey. Hydrogen Peroxide is just water with an extra oxygen molecule attached. And if you've ever gotten 35% h2o2 on your hands you'll know what I'm talking about. Oxidation is very harmful. And drinking h2o2 at even 3% could cause serious damage... Not very much different than the ozone Low concentrations are pretty much harmless. (people drink highly diluted food grade h2o2 to oxygenate the blood) But any kind of concentration is very harmful... And most ozone generators put off far more of a concentration than what is safe... If it doesn't put out a harmful amount of ozone, I'd be pretty worried about its odor killing effectiveness.


The 2000 mg/hr one is for shock treatments or treating air as it leaves the building at 800 cubic feet per minute. Let me tell you that puppy puts out some serious ozone. Dont wanna get close to that puppy when its running. But it is enough to cook the smell within a few seconds before it gets sucked out by my ventilation fans.

The 75 mg/hr generator is nowhere near enough to kill the smell unless I run it in the flowering room, but then I risk hurting the plants, or making my buds... Smell,,, like,,, uhh, ozone.

25 mg/ hr might be enough not to hurt you too much, and not hurt the plants to much. But if you had enough stinky plants I seriously doubt it would do enough to neutralize the smell.

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why couldnt you have the generator inside your grow tent/room and run a hose from it that taped to the exhaust vent. that way the smelly air would mix with the ozone on its way out of the room/tent. And why do hydroponic shops recommend them as much as carbon filters? its not like you would need either one to get the nasty smell of fresh fruits or veggies out of your house. becasue they dont really smell bad. I'm not trying to argue really, im just sayin' if you have the right conditions i think ozone would be a better choice. and a cheaper alternative.
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why couldnt you have the generator inside your grow tent/room and run a hose from it that taped to the exhaust vent. that way the smelly air would mix with the ozone on its way out of the room/tent.
Yes thats the only way I ever recommend using ozone. The problem here is twofold; most people don't exhaust their air outside, they exhaust it into their living space... So unless you have a larger grow room this frequently isn't an option. Also you either need a much higher powered generator to do this effectively, or an entire closet sized room designated to ozonating your air to allow it time to mix. When the ozone has very little time to mix with the smell odors, such as inside an exhaust duct, it simply isn't effective, and you wind up still having a smell problem.

As you can see, I use ozone generators as well and thats exactly what i do with them So they are useful if you can exhaust outside. But not nearly as useful as a carbon scrubber.

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And why do hydroponic shops recommend them as much as carbon filters? its not like you would need either one to get the nasty smell of fresh fruits or veggies out of your house. becasue they dont really smell bad. I'm not trying to argue really, im just sayin' if you have the right conditions i think ozone would be a better choice. and a cheaper alternative.
Not sure what hydro shop you go to but I would stop taking their advice Mine never reccomend ozone generators even though they sell them... Carbon scrubbers all the way. I have had hydro shops give me bad advice all the time so that comes as no surprize.

Seem to cost about the same price... A small scrubber is actually cheaper than a quality ozone generator. I mean you need a ventilation blower anyway right? If you want a high quality ozone generator ( a big blue 6" inline costs $400 ) you'll shell out 2 to four times as much as you would for a can 100 carbon scrubber. Even a cheaper ozone generator runs about 200 bux, which is still more expensive than a can 33. With cheapest of all being a DIY carbon scrubber. I've built ones that worked great for 50 bucks. Hard part is finding cheap quality carbon.
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