Treadwell

Ive read through this thread a few times without speaking personal opinion. I try to keep touchy subject matter opinions to myself. But.. being that the thing is into the teens in pages ill say simply.. I am former military and hunt avidly. I have more guns in my possesion than most ppl have SEEN. Some are loaded and some arent. I have no real intensions of ever using them (unless its a kill or be killed scenario) but, none the less, its a comfort for me to know they are there if the occasion ever arises. I am an red blooded american and I choose to embrace the right to bare arms. At least until the government takes that from us too following the patriot act.
This link has detailed definitions of personal protection and self defense. From what i gathered from it in the read its pretty simply stated that the only situation in which you are permitted to use deadly force is a situation in which you are being threatened with deadly force. I might add.. there is one hitch to the whole thing (and this came from my electrician brother in law that USED to be a local cop). You are allowed to use deadly force in a situation when the threat cannot be determined. I.E. if you are in a dark home and cannot tell if an intruder is armed or not and they APPEAR that they may be. In which case.. I say shoot.. get the grow gear out of the house.. and call the cops after
Legal Definition of Self-Defense Defense

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eleaf

No reason to get the gear out, just the plants.

Here's a tip:
Always keep a few potted plants available to put in your room if the need arises (ornamental flowers or potted vegetables like tomatoes would work best). There is no law against indoor gardening, and having and using the gear in itself isn't a crime. The only crime is what's grown with said lights. If you ditch the plants (one should always have an emergency plan to ditch plants at a moment's notice - as well as the willingness to do it) and put a few orchids or any other plant (orchids are good though: light, very portable, not expensive, good looking, and many people grow them indoors) in the room.

I would think that taking the time to take apart a grow room (which may take a lot of time if you have elaborate hydro setups/many plants or lights/ventilation/grow tents/etc) before calling LEO about a guy you just killed for breaking in your house would be a horrible move. I know that it would take me well over an hour (perhaps 2) to break down my grow setup to where it leaves minimal trace, and even then there are holes in walls etc that can't be hidden. And that's only if you have a place to stash your gear off premises.

And all that with a dead guy in your house who's blood is drying/other death related issues to explain later on.

Just quickly replace the plants with decoys and call LEO. Quick and easy.

Who's to say that the dead guy in your house was there to steal weed?

Treadwell

I once got hammered and stole a pontoon boat. The police report read.. and i quote.. " the suspect having taken SAID BOAT" Almost sounds like youve had to read one of these before...

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If a pot plant grows in the woods, and no one is around to smell it, does it make a scent?

2009 OUTDOOR - failed lunar grow

BREEDING AUTOS - hempy style

eleaf

It's actually a very well founded rhetorical rouse which serves to highlight a particular object rather (that plant as opposed to just any plant) than a more generic phraseology.

nark-o

went cut grass yesterday and took along a couple of pistols. both fuction flawlessly

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JointVenture

you got that right Luke

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dman619

Swordfish in Ca we have the right to protect our MMJ grows just like we have the right to protect our property. With that though comes some rules, these have to do with the right to use deadly force on your property. In CA the entry has to be both forceful and unlawful for you to use deadly force. So if you leave your front door unlocked and some drunk stumbles in you can't shot that person. If someone breaks a window and come in you can shot them on site no questions asked. But you can't shot someone in the back as they flee your property, even if they have stolen from you. In that case the court will say that they no longer posed a theat to you so you don't really have a reason to take their life. This law has many grey areas, and even each state has different guidelines for using deadly force on someone breaking into your house. You really should contact an attorney in your state, or look it up online to see where your state sits.

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Treadwell

Nice lookin AK JointVenture

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If a pot plant grows in the woods, and no one is around to smell it, does it make a scent?

2009 OUTDOOR - failed lunar grow

BREEDING AUTOS - hempy style

nark-o

cant wait to see her wearing a drum JV

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