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Old 07-24-2000, 07:25 AM   #1
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This probably isn't the right site for this question, but I haven't seen Ganja Warrior post anywhere else.

When are assets/bank acounts are siezed? Before or after trial? I was just wondering because if they seize all assets before trial, there wouldn't be any way to pay for a lawyer.
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Old 07-24-2000, 05:25 PM   #2
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, helvetica, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Larz:
This probably isn't the right site for this question, but I haven't seen Ganja Warrior post anywhere else.

When are assets/bank acounts are siezed? Before or after trial? I was just wondering because if they seize all assets before trial, there wouldn't be any way to pay for a lawyer.
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Usually, any assests that can identified as proceeds, or that were used to facilitate the alleged drug law violation are seized or otherwise frozen as soon as they are identified and the investigation becomes public knowledge. We generally try to have the seizure warrants in hand before we arrest anyone or serve search warrants so the assets can be seized before they disappear.

Usually the forfeiture action against the assets is a civil hearing that is not dependant on a criminal conviction. In sopme instances the government will pursue criminal forfieture over civil forfeiture where the asset forfeiture is dependant on a criminal conviction.

Recent changes in the asset forfeiture laws has eased the burden on the citizens. It used to be that to contest the forfeiture of your assets, you had to place a bond equal to the value of the asset to contest the forfeiture.

The federal government can still hold hearings on the source of bail money, etc to determine it's source, and if the citizen can not show that money for the bail, or for the bond to contest the forfeiture of assets is from a legimate source, the government seizes that money as well!

The more successful persons place assets in some kind of protected status, such as trusts, or in third party names, or the good old tried and true burying. There are many good sources of information on how to protect assets available on the open market.
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Old 07-24-2000, 08:09 PM   #3
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GW... this is the second post I have found aimed at you this week. I would love you to head up the Security Forum here. With your insight you would be a great asset. Let me know.

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I second that, Hydro. If GW would take over this forum it'd be just fine by me, I'd be glad to have him.
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Old 09-30-2000, 03:36 AM   #5
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I have just read about every post from you and could not agree with HG and Sativa more. You seem to offer some high quality info no matter the motive.

We have probally met you if you refuled or rested up in Fortuna (off Rohnerville Rd.) I would usually visit the southeast side of the airport when all the old CDF planes would come in and got to meet many CAMP voulenteers/employees.

You may not hear it often on HC.com and even though this may cost me a few new friends here I want to say "THANKS" for taking the time to post.

Even though you say that you would never tip someone off you have probally helped a few stay out of jail with your info. Keep on Posting

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, helvetica, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mr Monster:
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I have just read about every post from you and could not agree with HG and Sativa more. You seem to offer some high quality info no matter the motive.

We have probally met you if you refuled or rested up in Fortuna (off Rohnerville Rd.) I would usually visit the southeast side of the airport when all the old CDF planes would come in and got to meet many CAMP voulenteers/employees.

You may not hear it often on HC.com and even though this may cost me a few new friends here I want to say "THANKS" for taking the time to post.

Even though you say that you would never tip someone off you have probally helped a few stay out of jail with your info. Keep on Posting

Thanks again,
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MonsterMan, Sorry 'bout the delay, I've been kinda busy ya know.

Yeah I've been to Rohnerville at time or two!

We don't use the Bell Huey's any more, but we get the occasional Blackhawk, that's a real E-Ticket ride. Next time you see us on the ground, come and introduce yourself and I'll organize the ride...hehehe

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