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Old 01-02-2001, 05:24 PM   #1
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of i was wondering about infared and how it works. Lets say if i have a patch (5 plants) and then another patch about 50 feet away is it easy for it to detect it that way? or like how big is the area of picture it takes? also will it pic up seedlings? or is any plant no matter if its 6 inches to 8 feet tall all look the same on there? also if they r planted in a forest thats fairly dense, will it pick them up as easly? i also heard pine trees also help hide them is this true?
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Old 01-02-2001, 05:40 PM   #2
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Infrared detects heat, and only heat. Most of your questions are about a photo, which will be able to distinguish your plants from the surrounding plants. The outdoor concern for infrared is when you have an irrigation system hooked up, and the cooler water shows up on the infrared. Other than thatn, unless you have a suspicious heat source near your plants, you shouldn't have an infrared problem.
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ok thanx for the info, but now i wanna re-ask all those questions about the photos then ;]
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We normally use the Mark 1, Mod 1, calibrated eyeball when looking for pot. We only take pictures after we find it. Where the pot is planted makes the difference. If it is planted under brush that stays green most of the year, it is harder to spot. If it is planted near other plants that stay green most of the year it is difficult to spot.

I have had the hardest time spotting dope in blackberry bushes, in big fern patches, and under manzanita or scrub oaks that have been limbed underneath.

Eventually, when the pot gets big it outgrows its camouflage.
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hey GW,

you ARE in the northwest aren't you? Manzanita and Blackberry are tellng me Oregon, or NorCal. Not trying to pry, just curious.
What exaclty is a Mark 1, Mod 1, calibrated eyeball?
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GW the smaller the plants the hard to find them? would 2 1/2 feet easy to spot? how good do u normally scan a "normal" area that has had no previous accounts of growing, or no hear say of any groeing? how far apart should my small plots be? thanks for all the help. remember yer helping a smoker not a commercial grower ;]
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"Mark 1, Mod 1, calibrated eyeball" is a play on military terminology. We just use our trained eyes.

I've spotted plants as small as 18 inches. However, I'm continually amazed when we spot a "small" garden from the air. When we go in on foot, we find that are actually many plants that we didn't see. Usually, unless the garden is a "Ray Charles" garden, (you know, one that even a blind person can see) we don't see the plants until some of them begin showing thru the vegetation.

The closer together the plants are in the garden, the more green that shows thru the overhead cover. The more spread out, the harder it is to see them.

Some of the most effective cover I've seen is when the garden is under other vegetation, and then under camo netting. We found one two years ago that had been there for years, in an area we regularly looked, but we only found it when a corner of the camo net rotted and blew loose letting some of the plants show.

No matter how far apart the grow sites are, if we connect them by trail or waterline, we count all of the plants in the charges aganist the grower. If we can't connect them by trail or waterline, we look for similarities in the grow technique and equipment used. And, of course, we look for connective evidence like shoe prints, fingerprints, etc.

Because of the HUGH increase in large grows being tended by illegal aliens, we are starting to look in areas we used to not look. CAMP has doubled the number of plants seized in the last coupla years due to these large scale hispanic grows.

I'm not "helping" anyone. I'm merely respsonding to questions about police procedures in pot investigations. Growing marijuana, without proper authorization, is a serious felony and can subject you to prison terms and the forfeiture of personal property.
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true, and I understand the disclaimer. However by providing information that would otherwise be unavailable to most of us, you are helping us, like it or not. It is appreciated.
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i dont really understand what you do for a living? you work for the government spotting and siezing drugs? where do u look? Just any random place? Or when drug suspicions come up, you search and sieze? Is there any chance someone like you could be walking through my neck of the woods? I am preety sure my plants wont be found..Sometimes i have trouble finding them myself...

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seeing as how you're, all pc set aside, helping us ganja warrior, id like to give you something... its needs work, but it does have potential.

i once heard of a murderer being convicted because he had a seed pod in the back of his truck. through dna testing, this pod was found to be from the same site as where the body was found.

now, im just curious... if a grower were to spread his plants out, yet use the same strain, seeds, clones etc... couldn;t a dna pattern be established to show that they've come from the one source?

hope it gets you a promotion... personally, i think that using different varieties in different locations with different techniques is a good practice in the first place, but hey, if my thoery works, perhaps it will force people into it ;P
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