bagabones73

as a rule (industry std in this area) an a/c contractor will set you up with a system that will only allow you to get your home 20 degrees cooler than the outdoor temps

for 2400 sq ft its a 5 ton system

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knomknurd

How much electricity does my stuff use?

1. The amount of electricity listed on the label is the maximum amount that the appliance will ever use. For example, a 500-watt refrigerator will only run at 500 watts when the compressor's running (which is when it makes that humming sound, indicating that it's actually chilling the air inside). Most of the time the fridge just sits there, using only 5 watts or so for its electronics. If the amount of work done by a device varies up and down, then so does its energy use. (e.g., a stereo that can be turned up or down, an oven that can be set at various temperatures, a fridge that sometimes runs and sometimes doesn't, a computer that sometimes spins its various drives and sometimes has to use more of its brainpower, etc.) The label on computers is particularly useless; a computer labeled at 300 watts probably uses only about 65. (More on computers' electrical use.) In just a bit we'll cover how to measure the actual amount of electricity being used by a device.
2. Many consumer items are advertised according to their power output, not input. That means the stereo that says 30 watts on the box might actually require 50 watts to make 30 watts of sound (assuming the volume was cranked), and your 900-watt microwave oven might actually use 1400 watts (on its highest setting). That's because all electrical devices are inefficient -- they have to use some extra energy to do what they do.
3. Knowing how much electricity a device uses at a given moment doesn't tell you how much it's using in a month, because it's probably not running 24/7 (and if it is running 24/7 like a fridge, it's probably not using the maximum amount of electricity, as we discussed earlier). To measure how much electricity something uses for a certain period of time (like a week or a month), you can use a watt-meter.
4. Some devices use a small amount of electricity even when they're not on. For example, VCR's and microwaves draw a small amount to power the time display. This amount is often 5 watts or less. Devices which run off transformers also draw a small amount of power.

Exercise #2. Your kitchen uses 400 watts of lighting. How much does it cost if the lights are on 24 hours a day, for a whole month, at 9¢/kilowatt? How much per year?

400 watts x 24 hours/day x 30.5 days/month = 292,800 Total Watt-hours
292,800 Wh / 1000 Wh = 293 kWh
293 kWh x 9¢/kWh = $26.37/month; $316/year . return to previous section
Exercise #3. Your window AC uses 1440 watts. How much does it cost to run it continuously for a month? Assume 9¢/kWh.

1440 watts x 24 hours/day x 30.5 days/monh = 1,054,080 Total Watt-hours
1,054,080 Wh / 1000 Wh = 1,054 kWh
1,054 kWh x 9¢/kWh = $94.86/month . return to previous section

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imback

i added a 400 hps and replaced all of my light bulbs with cfls and my electric bill went down go figure

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Well, back in the day I knew a dealer guy who got raided by the fuzz with a dog, The guy had his stash buried in the backyard in which he also had a bitch in heat, (a dog type bitch).
Apparently, the cop dog was a male and could not control his "carnal" urges and hence became completely useless at sniffing anything but sweet puppy pussy. I've got no reason to doubt dealer guy's story, (I was there buying weed 2 hours after it happened).
Now I'm not saying it'd work all the time or even some of the time, but I reckon if you were in that sort of situation, with a dog in that condition, it'd probably be worth trying...

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grower117

im srry to imform you that the dd's are very smart and are trained very strictly to only alert if they smell things that they are trained to smell: pot, coke, etc. they would barly move if your cat walked by.

again theirs a good and bad to this the bad is above , their is no excuse for a cat.
the good is that they wont budge if you had 10 pds stashed in your house if he couldnt smell it. yes i know its hard to keep the smell away but it is very possible.
for example i was in a airport and i had fish in my suitcase, illegal to have inside airports. the dds sniffed my bag and walked away. i could smell the lovely fish, point is if they cant smell or reconize it your ok.

again i know a jailer who for some reason cant stop talking about this kind of thing...she doesnt know anything bout what i do if any other questions like this, messenge me

MRFUNNYHAHA

I would really appreciate any info on smart meters. They're switching all customers over to them in Ontario right now and as far as I can tell this is a very new thing anywhere.

Whether you sign up for the hourly rate plan or not they are recording and storing hourly usage data in some sort of provincial database and it is really weirding me out.

Like someone earlier in this thread mentioned, I guess it would be best to split your garden in two and have something running around the clock but I really dont want or need to get into that large of production. Doubling from 600 to 1200 watts seems riskier than just leaving a trail of 12 and 18 hour cycles.

Could anyone comment on this at all?

Mr Burns

I have what you term as a 'smart meter'. One guy who came and read it said we weren't using enough electric (3.6KW grow) and the next guy said the opposite What was most interesting was they said these meters can be read down the power lines but the system is having technical difficulties.

However. What I'd advise anyone to do if they have a garage attached to their house and semi detached at least (or with a visible outbuilding) is to have the electric bill in a business name.
Use your grey matter and come up with something that would have a high use of electric. For instance, I used to have a fake welder repair business name on my electricity account
Not sure how it works where most of you are, but in Europe they just want your money and not a load of red tape to get the $$ out of you

Also, if you have many utility companies to choose from as we do, go for one that may charge more and not be well known. You'll find the less customers a company has the more their eye is on the $$ without questioning what's behind the scenes

MRFUNNYHAHA

I don't think a welding business would account for twelve hours of constant usage around +/- 700watts. Even aquarium lighting doesn't get far above 350w x 12hrs.

I'm really worried that the climate toward small growing in Southern Ontario is turning harsh and in conjunction these meters will result in some sort of massive crackdown.

I came across a gov't website earlier that mentioned the information would be collected and transmitted to a provincial database on hydro usage, only released to those so authorized to see it. Oh god the OPP are going to have a fucking field day with this. I'll see if I can find the link again.

Here is something that hints at it

^ I think I read that these are transmitted remotely too

There is a bit of a discussion on them here

Mr Burns

You wanna read those figures again you just quoted because I think you have a woeful misunderstanding of what welders consume
Try a welding business with a floor space of a common domestic garage that uses +/- 12KW per day and you can see where I ripped the idea from.

If you want to be seen as a user of an aquarium, you'd be better off growing fish, not mj