waveguide

i'm on day 10 of a durban poison germ and haven't seen much from them yet. one of them has the tip of the radical, but isn't growing or rotting.

i used to 'engineer' seeds at a nursery for a few years, using acids and files et c. for germ so a few days ago i cracked the shell on one. the seed is still firm, ie. it hasn't rotted yet, and still hasn't shown any growth.

four days ago i threw the rest of the dp seeds i had into another cup, then i realised yesterday i've probably sowed them against the moon, which is something i've never experienced but heard attested to.

so i guess this is a suggestion to germ on the new moon, and a request for any tricks on germing, or keeping these seeds from rotting until they do their thing.

the seeds are warm (on top of cable box, ~85 fahrenheit) and i 'treat' the water (rinse and bathe the seeds to stop water from going septic, use a drop of supertrace levels of bleach or h2o2 for washing. i've also tried some aspirin in the older cup, which i understand helps plants resist diseases.

i should buy more seeds and germ them at the correct time?

tripps

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knna

Seeds germs slighty better with the new moon, but its not a requeriment at all. If seed are OK, then they should germ at any point of the moon's cycle.

So seeds arnt fresh enough (or stored bad) or your germing procedure isnt right.

Hydrate the seeds on a cup of water for some hours and then put it on absorbent paper at the temp you are running. Keep the paper moist (not wet) by spraying softly (1-3 times a day is often enough). Once the seeds had shown the root, put it gently on the rooting media (if possible, root down ). Fresh seed usually pop after just one night, and most viable seeds before 3 days.

If you planted the seeds directly on soil, its possible you buried them too deep.

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waveguide

i've been germing bagseed for 20 years now (and a nursery seed germ professional, tho with other species)

i don't know if it's the dry climate, it's difficult to keep something moist here without mold growing in it, so the strange thing to me is that the dp seeds i have have been soaked/moist for 10 days now, the radical is barely visible on two of them.. i'm surprised they're not rotten by now, but they're fine. they're just not doing anything.

i'll try that possum thing

knna

If you are germed so much seed, then i would say its very probably those seeds are too old or bad stored. When a seed shows the radical and it dont grow fast, very often is a sign of defective seed/weak genetic wich dont worth to be grown..

Seed soaked for 10 days? On my experience, its detrimental instead of benefical. Seeds standing too much time in water before being germed has more ploblems than those wich have been hydrated for hours, I dont know why, it just a personal conclusion based on my experience.

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I've been gardening pot for nearly 40 years. All I ever do is lay the seeds on a wet papertowel/napkin inside a sealed container (tupperware). Peace, Loran

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DP takes longer than most strains, allot longer. It is better to just put them in a cup until they sink, and plant the sunken seeds, and let nature take it's coarse. It is was bred for guerilla growing, so it is bred to need as little attention possible, so just plant them once they sunk. If they do not sink within 2 days, the seeds are not viable.

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waveguide

thanks, that's useful to know. there's half a dozen forum references to growing DP, some of which mention a slow germ. my first batch of DP are at day 13 still without action or rotting. all i know is that it's an african sativa that has been inbred in holland, which could be here or there on a lot of things. i'm thinking there's a temperature or chemical component to their germ as scarifying the seed didn't start it. the ones i scarified would be mush by now if they were bad

waveguide

fifteen days..

..as i posted earlier, i used to prep seeds for a production nursery.. my knowledge is only experiential and with other species..

..there's environmental components to germination, eg. some species won't germinate above a temperature or have to have been frozen before germinating ('winter' causing a chemical breakdown that allows germination). this is why i'm thinking there's some unknown environmental criteria.

even the seed i scarified (cut open) has not rotted after 15 days of moisture! the durban poison seeds are significantly different from other cultivars.

i used to batch process shrub and tree seeds in acid i don't have enough of them to trial and error the correct exposure time..

kawgomoo

are your seed in tuppies or what? i live in teh dryest of all climates and just papertowel them and toss it in a tuppy on the computer. voila! i cant imagine them dring out in a sealed container?

there arent any possum out here, so we have to soak our seeds in unicron blood first to bless them.. 60% of the time it works every time.