glasspackedbowl

HERMAPHRODITE II



Dear Ed, I have a plant that has been growing for about four months. Our apartment complex suffered a series of power failures over the course of one month. It threw my plant off schedule. When I was able to get light to her, it took two weeks to bring back vegetative growth. She had already started to produce pollen sacs directly above each ovary and had pollinated herself. Since then, seeds have developed. Will the seeds produced from her be truly all-female? Eddie G.

cheese

isnt that how u made ur seeds GPB??. with stressed females?

its how i did mine.. still havent had the chance to try mine out yet.. hopefully all is well

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penguin

Ed's wrong.


penguin

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jamesgang

Not necessarily. I had a hermie that produced 60 or 70 all female seeds. It wasnt stressed though just a few branches were hermies...

JG

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penguin

Ed's wrong because his answer is too general, and because outcomes can't be predicted from the information given.

And this statement is just plain silly: "The pollen had only female genetic information and all the plants from that pollen whether self-crossed or crossed to another female, will produce only female plants. "

Statements of that nature demonstrate a very naive understanding of the genetic basis of sexual expression as it occurs in the vast majority of dioecious species.

Generally speaking, 100% offspring of a stress-induced hermaprhodite x non-hermaprhodite cross can be expected to exhibit hermaprhoditism in response to the same stress.


penguin

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glasspackedbowl

and u know hes wrong because??????????????? how many feminised seeds have u made??? I know I have only tryed once. just wondering where ug et your info from?

rock on

penguin

Hermaphroditism in is one of my favorite areas of study. I have been breeding with hermaphrodites since 1985.

My most recent cross involving a hermie was made just last year. It was a predominantly female hermaphrodite (FDH) x straight female (F2 sibs), in a controlled pollination. The P1 cross was betwee a very stable (and hermie-free) hybrid that I have been working with for many years, x a new (to me) indica-dom. Out of 50 seeds germinated 10 were female, and the remainder were either male or predominantly female hermaphrodites.

Mark & Liz's DP Isis Fem is another perfect example - the seed bank beans were 100% FDH and expressed male flowers in varying patterns. Mark has attributed this to stress, but if there was any, it was very minor.


penguin

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glasspackedbowl

ijust dont believe you hve been growing feminised seeds for 20 years have we know how to make them that long ago?

penguin

Undetected hermaphrodites have been ruining sinsemilla crops for a lot longer than I have been growing. In my early days we ran into hermies often enough that we figured that the potential was nearly ubiquitous. We had a lot of names for the resulting seeds, and not one of them was 'feminized,' (or even printable here ).

Since then I have learned to screen very carefully when selecting mothers, and have achieved very good hermie-resistance in my main lines. My screening process is specfically designed to express hermies, and so I tend to get a lot of them whenever I bring in new lines. I have bred with them many times. My opinion based on that experience - and a process that is probably a lot better than that of the average grower for keeping the hermies isolated - is that hermies suck. I would much rather work with straight males and females in a 50/50 ratio.

I have never really paid a whole lot of attention to what the seed banks are doing, so I don't know exactly when they first started labelling hermaphodites with a euphemism, and marketing them as a good thing. But I first noticed 'guaranteed female' seeds maybe 10 years ago. When people started buying them and complaining about all of the hermies and males they were getting, the marketing copy got changed to the less definite euphemism 'feminized.'

My opinion is that it is very irresponsible of breeders and growers to produce and plant these seeds.

The best way to guarantee female plants is to use clones.

And there's a huge difference between random breeding with hermaphrodites and the selective breeding of stablized lines that goes into seed bank 'feminized' seeds.


penguin

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glasspackedbowl

what ever just please dont post on my threads. If you dont like them, what ever you want to call them, then say u dont like them but dont post talking about not telling the truth(feminised seeds). This and that. I know people have good luck with these and pay high end $$$ I bet it wouldnt have lasted 10 years without some good luck