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Old 02-28-2004, 06:40 PM   #11
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and I am a miracle-gro pre-ferted soil user.

MG soil with 2 cups lawn and garden lime per gallon (calcitic & dolomitic lime plus trace minerals)

Garden Safe , Liquid rose brand fertilizer (3-1-1) once a week in water

Better-Gro orchid bloom fert. dont remember n-p-k (never got to flower anyway,hermie)
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Well, My soil mix is very easy and there is plenty of it and its free and you all already probably have guessed it,,, 20+ year old decomposed cow sh it .I have been visiting the same pile for many years. I use store brand potting soil (Great Value) for all other applications.
Nothing real fancy.
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Old 03-01-2004, 12:22 AM   #13
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I use 50/50 Shultz\walmart\MG\whatever soil and vermiculite. I use fish emulsion for veg. and shultz bloom plus for flowering. I use the outdoor fertilizing specs on the labels. Cheap, easy, effective In my experince.
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Hey Everyone...
Im using Premier Pro-Mix for my soil medium, it has in it:
-Canadian Sphagnum Peat moss (75%-85% by volume)
-Perlite
-Vermiculite
-Limestone (for pH adjustment)
-Wetting agent

Its also a product of Canada. being a Canadian I wouldnt have it any other way. Also Im using Alaskan Fish Emulsion 5-1-1 for vegetative every other watering ...hehe what a hypocrite I just said I wouldnt have it any other way and Im using Alaskan fish emulsion.

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I've been using this little mix....
10 Gal of mix =
5 Gal soil
2 Gal Perlite
2 Gal vermiculite
1 Gal Peat
1 cup lime
1 cup Bat Guano
1/2 cup Bone meal
1/2 cup Blood meal

After Talking with Brindie I'm going to Double the Perlite and do away with the Vermiculite. And I'll probable be adding about a 1/4 cup to the Blood & Bone Meal....
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sunshine mix #4
well I guess thats more than two words(no hate mail please )
Advanced nutrients used that for their comparative grow studies using different nutes and theirs.
CC mag just had an article about comercial grow ops and that's what they use.
It comes in a large bail ,cost 20 bucks and I can get 10 plants from start to finish.

It comes pre mixed and contains,
spagnum peat moss, perlite, a wetting agent, and dolmetic limestome.
It's called a soilless mix right on the bag.
here's a pic along with the ferts I use ( won't give any recipies cause I'm a pinch of that , dash of this kinda guy)


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Old 03-06-2004, 04:49 PM   #17
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Soil mixes? Fun stuff. I grow a little outside in real dirt that gets ammended with soft rock phophate 0-2-0(also known as colloidial clay phosphate, not the same as "rock phosphate"), cow manure 0.6-0.2-0.5, and alfalfa meal 2-1-2. I also add some perlite to loosen up the dirt to allow for better drainage. Vermiculite is added to improve moisture holding capacity and cation exchange capacity. I use calcium carbonate to raise the ph of my acidic soil. I try and get the soil tested before the season and ammend it accordingly. If I need to increase the nitrogen I add as much as five gallons of composted cow manure into the planting hole, which averages 3 foot in diameter and about 2 feet deep. If the test shows ample nitrogen I usually cut the amount in half. For a planting hole that is defficient in phosphorus I add about 8 cups of soft rock phosphate, for holes that have ample P I only use about 4 cups. I have never had to worry much about potassium, but the cow manure and alfalfa meal add about as much K as they do N so use those guidelines or look into sulphate of potash. If the test show a deficiency in any areas I focus on the ammendments that would benefit me the most. I have worked hard for several years improveing my soil. Useing organic ammendments and fertilizers to increse the organic humas content. I fertigate with compost teas and kelp extract to give the plants a water soluble nutrient boost during the groing season and to promote any beneficial soil microbes. After a few years of close monitoring and ammending accodingly, the soil will have improved enough that a light maintenance fertilizer and ammendment program can be implemented.

The times I have grown with a soil mix indoors I started with an inert soilless medium like ProMix or sunshine mix. For the short time the plants were in the vegetative grow stage all I did was mixed it 2 to 1 with perlite to make it drain better. Fertigated with kelp extract and either 5-1-1 fish emulsion or 6-6-6 compost tea. When I transplanted for the flower stage I would then add worm castings(real new dirt) at the rate of 4 cups per gallon of soilless mix, 1/2 cup of soft rock phosphate or high P guano per gallon of soilless mix and fertigate with a 1-5-5 compost tea.

Dirt farming is fun and these methods have worked well for me.
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Old 03-06-2004, 08:20 PM   #18
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Ok, might as well throw my in here.

It's similar to OP (I knew I liked that guy)

40% perlite
40% black gold soil
10% Omni soil conditioner
10% worm castings
1 Tbl/Gal Bone Meal
1 Tbl/Gal Blood Meal
1/2 Tbl/gal green sand
3 Tbl/gal Kelp
1/2 Tbl/gal Sol-Po-Mag

Veg Ferts : Extreme Juice every other watering; B1, superthrive, liquid seaweed every watering
Flower Ferts : Alaka MorBloom every other watering; B1 & liquid seaweed every watering

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Hey OP - Wish I could help you out here but I've never measured out what I put into my mix that goes in pots. Next time I make up a mix, I'll try to take some notes. Otherwise you'll get just what you don't want... handfuls, cupfuls, etc.
I haven't seen too much written about here on H.com about "water crystals." Its the only thing I add that no one here has mentioned. I use a brand name "Watersorb;it helps me to extend the periods between waterings. It grabs and hangs on to water in the "soil" and releases it as the soil gets drier and drier.
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I've been using this little mix....
10 Gal of mix =
5 Gal soil
2 Gal Perlite
2 Gal vermiculite
1 Gal Peat
1 cup lime
1 cup Bat Guano
1/2 cup Bone meal
1/2 cup Blood meal
After Talking with Brindie I'm going to Double the Perlite and do away with the Vermiculite. And I'll probable be adding about a 1/4 cup to the Blood & Bone Meal....
Smoken -I agree with Brindie, get rid of the vermiculite and I have a question... In your recipe above I notice you use a cup of lime... what kind of lime? This seems like a lot for the quantity of "soil" you are producing. How come?
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Another Recipe For The Books.

Soil mix
-660l perlite
-660l Pro-Mix HP (high perosity potting soil, it is about 30% perlite)
-200l Organic potting soil (this has very small amounts of perlite, worm castings, kelp meal and blood meal)

So to make it easy for newbies I'll berak it down into a 15 gallon mix.
-6 1/2 gallons of perlite
-6 1/2 gallons of Pro Mix HP
-2 gallons of premium organic potting soil

Veg food and addatives
While my plants are in veg, I like to be gentle with them. So I start off in a 40 gallon res. at about 500ppm of Fox Farms Grow Big (6-4-4) and add half a litre of humic acid. I will use this combo once per week, gradually increasing the ppm of the grow big to about 750ppm. My plants will get two waterings per week, one with food and one without. I do this to help control the salt build up in the soil. I also folier feed my plants with an addative called Liquid Extacy every 3 days.

Flowering weeks 1-2
For the flowering cycle I will start by adding 2tbls of Welcome Harvest Farms Bat Guano (N=0.1-2%, P2O5=26%) to each 5 gallon pot and then give them a shot of water with nothing but a litre of fulvic acid in it. Then I will start giving them Fox Farms Tiger bloom (2-8-4) at about 750-1000ppm and adding 1/2 a litre of fulvic acid as well.

By adding the tiger bloom and bat guano I should be able to keep the nodes tight because they both have high "P".

Flowering weeks 2-3
During this time I will still be using the Tiger bloom and fulvic acid, but I will start adding Dr.Hornbys Big Bud as soon as I see ant buds starting. My mixture at this point will be 1000ppm Tiger Bloom and 200-300ppm Big Bud, as well as half a litre of fulvic acid.

Flowering weeks 3-6
I will stop using the Tiger Bloom at this point and switch to Botanicares Power Flower (2-2-5). I will also increase the Big Bud to about 500ppm per watering, the power flower will be at about 1000ppm. Sugar will also be added at this point to every watering, not just the food feedings. I will add about 2 cups to my 40 gallon res.

Flowering weeks 6-8
Flushing is the main procedure here, I usually use a clearing solution at this point and then water every second day even if they look as if they don't need any water.

I think that is everything, if it isn't I will post later.

Hope this helps, it might not be the best recipe for a newbie but it's still a great recipe.
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