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seaman

Yea . . . So I applied the bananas about 2 - 3 weeks in veg and my ratio of female to male is favourable for me to deffinetly try this again.

I got 4 females out of 5 plants. Thats 80% Success.

youngbuck11

Since this thread was so long I didn't read all 30+ pages, but I kind of have an idea about the problem with the hermies. Sorry if this is a repeat of an idea, but I thought I would throw it out there.

Now in the human genetics, whatever hormones your introduced to early on will cause you to become one sex or the other. So being a male your testosterone dominant, and a female being estrogen and progesterone dominant. The point I'm trying to make is, maybe you have plants that are male dominant, and are pretty much forcing them to become female. I know early on in the thread there was a link to a full article about putting the banana peels into the seed bags to feminize the seeds, and the author stated having a 100% success. Now the last thing I would like to say on the topic of hermies is it could be quite possible that people are putting the bananas in to late and again forcing a male plant to become female. Which in turn would give you a hermaphrodite, just like taking a testosterone dominant fetus and introducing mass amounts of estrogen and progesterone is probably going to give you a hermaphrodite baby or just a really messed up baby. Tell me what you think.

And again I apologize if any of this has been stated earlier, as I didn't take the time to go through 30 + pages of reading.


OHHH and one last idea, what if you seeded the plants, and then put a dome over them with banana peels in paper towels laying inside the dome? Do you think this would cause mold to form on the plants?

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youngbuck11 Welcome to the garden.

Plant genetics are way to primitive, compared to human genetics.
Can't compare the two, and get an accurate answer.
We evolve, plants don't.

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Well, bud I got a question for ya... how do you keep the bugs from swarming your plant?
And what exactly do you mean you keep he peel under the plant, as in dig it up and put it there or just toss it there?
Details bro!

bluecheese

Use whole green bananas under the plant and let them ripen there. Replace them before there are any bugs - that's just nasty!

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mattdreads

a thread with over 355 posts, and you need more details?

read first IMHO.

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150w floro up untill day 7
600w HPS from day 7 untill finish
12x4x8 closet with enough ventilation to make the door shut.
daytime 78-80 degrees
night 74-76 degrees
humidity 45-50%


i transplanted on day 10 from a flat to trade gallons.
when i added the bananas on day 14 the plants were loving the new room to grow.
From then on out plants showed strange symptoms. Vertical growth pretty much stopped and the stems just started looking crazy. i dont really know how to explain but they just looked like the stems a mother plant would have. Fat and woody.

thought it was the ethylene but went on with it anyway. then i came across this:

It was in 1864, that leaks of gas from street lights showed stunting of growth, twisting of plants, and abnormal thickening of stems (the triple response)(Arteca, 1996; Salisbury and Ross, 1992). In 1901, a russian scientist named Dimitry Neljubow showed that the active component was ethylene (Neljubow, 1901). Doubt discovered that ethylene stimulated abscission in 1917 (Doubt, 1917). It wasn't until 1934 that Gane reported that plants synthesize ethylene (Gane, 1934). In 1935, Crocker proposed that ethylene was the plant hormone responsible for fruit ripening as well as inhibition of vegetative tissues (Crocker, 1935). Ethylene is now known to have many other functions as well.

I thought that pretty much nailed what was going on pretty well. I did everything the same way as i always have. the only differences were the bananas and a uvb light added at 3 weeks into flowering; the bananas were long gone by then. ohh and they were not the same bananas the whole time, i swtiched em out.

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mattdreads

I don't know what to tell ya...sounds pretty ledgit to me.

but I think it's strange that you're the only one that has complained about this, besides the guy that put them under a dome to trap more ethylene.

apparently it's like it is with everything, anything in excess is not good. period. even the most healthy things can become killers. people have even died from drinking too much water in one sitting.

possibly a strain that's more sensitive to it? maybe there was all ready a lot of it in the air around you...do you live near an orchard of some kind? do you know your PPM?

I believe fully that too much of it would indeed give a negative effect, I just can't get through my head that one or 2 or even 5 banana's could give off such an amount of ethylene. maybe there was a sort of pesticide on the banana that killed your plant, or a wierd bacteria from a dirty boat...who knows

eitherway, I think the banana thing is cool, but I'd rather let mother nature do her thing. the more we dick with nature the more we alter geneticly what it's suppose to be. eventually I believe it'll give a negative effect.

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Using Bananas in the Drying Room,To help finish the Ripening of the Colas ?

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