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Old 08-10-2008, 03:38 AM   #11
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While the first post did mention mechanical vibration, it did also mention sound, and referenced music as an example - an example apparently proven on "mythbusters".

Of course actual subsonic vibration (physical violent shaking) wasn't included or even alluded to.

Maybe something like figuring out naturally existing resonant frequencies in cannabis could be realized, and then experimented with.

True, redwoods don't have music, per se, but I assure you that they have been surrounded by the music of nature for many millions of years. What they heard and listened to long before man that made them able to grow so big is anyone's guess. I've spent enough time in some pristine and old growth forests to know that the sound can be almost deafening at times.
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Maybe something like figuring out naturally existing resonant frequencies in cannabis could be realized, and then experimented with.

True, redwoods don't have music, per se, but I assure you that they have been surrounded by the music of nature for many millions of years. What they heard and listened to long before man that made them able to grow so big is anyone's guess. I've spent enough time in some pristine and old growth forests to know that the sound can be almost deafening at times.

But the sound wavelengths Metallica and Pink Floyd operate on are nothing like what nature provides. I'm not entirely arguing that vibrations are bad for the plant. I just don't think music from the human level is beneficial to plants as much as people think. Stressing a plant sometimes boosts grow. Which is the only thing I can think of why some people would swear they see gains with certain batches of plants.
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Old 08-10-2008, 06:37 AM   #13
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yeah, but maybe the would have gotten bigger and grown faster with a litle motzart.
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I doubt even Mozart would work. In my opinion, your best bet are those cds with sounds of nature, whale calling, ocean sounds(pacific northwest has these beautiful plants on the coast), etc.

Not Mozart, Pink Floyd or some other human-made music.
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I doubt even Mozart would work. In my opinion, your best bet are those cds with sounds of nature, whale calling, ocean sounds(pacific northwest has these beautiful plants on the coast), etc.

Not Mozart, Pink Floyd or some other human-made music.

Um actually on mythbusters, classical music seemed to work the best, with heavy metal working the least.

But I'm not even talking about music, I'm talking about sticking a friggin vibrator in the soil and seeing what happens and diffrent frequencies, my guess is that higher frequcies would work the best if the whole theory is gonna work at all as it would stress the plant out the least, i think lower frequecies that would more violently shake the plant would be bad becasue the plant would probably spent more time growing roots and stronger stalks to be able to handle the vibrations, what we would want here are more bud sites, bigger buds and more potents buds.
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That link said very little about music and sound vibrations, but thanks anyway.
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Um actually on mythbusters, classical music seemed to work the best, with heavy metal working the least.

Because mythbusters are a reliable source of information? I don't have specifics but they aren't exactly reliable scientists you can put the faith of your plants on.


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Doesn't bigger roots mean better plants?
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Because mythbusters are a reliable source of information? I don't have specifics but they aren't exactly reliable scientists you can put the faith of your plants on.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to perform simple experiments. PLus thier both college educated but in this case it really wouldn't matter as long as you were smart enough to pass 9th grade scientific method you would probably be okay. I mean, all you do is have one room with plants in it that plays music, and one that doesn't, everything is exactly the same except for the diffrent music being played or no music bieng played.




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Doesn't bigger roots mean better plants?

not according to an article i read, they said that they used big vibrations, ones that would cause the plant to stress, and got far more root development, but smaller fruit and buds, i don't know what kind of plants they used.
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That link said very little about music and sound vibrations, but thanks anyway.

Actually, that last "bone" had a little meat on it... "ultrasound treatment altered the viscosity of macromolecule solutions in seeds. Near ultrasound (1.4 kHz, 0.095 kdb) was reported to increase metabolism in chrysanthemum roots, characterized by increases in amylase activity, soluble sugar, and protein (Yi et al., 2003 ). The treatment of chrysanthemum callus with 1.4 kHz sound increases indoleacetic acid levels while decreasing abscisic acid levels"

I'm glad you didn't read it, but thanks, anyways.

No, I don't consider the work of two special-effects guys on tv to be scientific gospel, but do you really think they're writing the scripts and developing the show?

"Doesn't bigger roots mean better plants?" That depends... do you want a baobab plant, or a huge bud, I suppose, is the real question.

scooterpie, you're pretty good at this. Do you have anything on circadian rhythm and artificially induced flowering?
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