I.T.GEEK83

OK thought i'd share my experience in growing amsterdams No.1 Lemon skunk. Firstly see my grow journal for my recent steps.

Any way ok like they say picture says a thousand words with out me really having to say much.

Firstly all the samples were of the same plant but each were given longer veg time.

As you can see with vegging the clone for 1 week each bud was very small and seemed like it wasn't fattening up (harvested with resin glands at esttimated 30% amber 70%cloudy.) though the smoke was a nice with a citrus smell the yield was very disappointing.

As for the samples taken 4 weeks of veg the yield of 2 plants was more than the 6 clones with 1 week of veg. so from now on gonna use 4weeks veg clones especially bescause the results was better then expected. the buds swelled up nicely and full of resin. waiting for them to dry so i can dip it. harvested (27/11/2008)

As for the plants given 8 and 10 weeks of veg time stay tuned... till then bless

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alleycat

I.T.GEEK83----Glad you are finding the size plants that will work best for you.

I'll be interested to see the ones with 8 weeks of vegging too.

Happy Growing

Alleycat

treesforme

GEEK83,this is a nice experiment,cant wait till see the difference in the longer veg.Ive been wondering this myself,i really havent been happy with my clone lately as far as yeild.Thanks,keep us posted.Ps Ive also been wondering about using more light in veg,will it really make a huge difference in yeild,I believe it will.when i get the veg time down i'll most likely do a study on that.Stay Safe & Good Luck!!Also im wondering what you are using for light?

I.T.GEEK83

Re: lights. Personally i like to stay more on the safe side then the yield side. I'm using 200w CFL grow light instead of a HPS light mainly because of the high temperatures hps lights give out. I live in the Ghetto so helicopters always hovering around. and i don't need them wondering why there's over 100 degree's in 1 room out of my 4 rooms. which is why i chose the CFL it produces less heat compared with HPS.

But if you want more yield i have to say definitly go with high power hps light (depeneding on how many plants.. check the light section of gardenscure for more indepth info) But YES more light = More yield
More space for root = more yield
more veg time = more yield
looking at the yield everyday = decrease of yield
giving a break of 3 days per visit = more yield LOL
NPK= During veg (N= High , P + K= Low) During flower ( N (reduced in by th 5th week of vegging) =low P+K (mainly phospurus) = High)
And getting a microscope and checking resin glads = correct time of harvest ( stupid dealers dunno what they even selling now adays i've come across buds with clear resins then i wonder why it's not getting me high...)
Clear Resin Glads = Not ready Yield
Cloudy = if you want a hig rush yield
Amber = if you want a couchlock yield (which i prefer for a good night sleep LOL)

Have to say from my harvest of 4 weeks veg the smoke was a 10/10 smoked a few joints with friend and they started saying they want ounces and what not cos the one joint they smoked with me kept them going from 5pm til 9pm then they relised shit aint smoked a joint in a while if you leave it til the couch lock you will enjoy it cos then it mean you smoke less in between.

My theory = Dealers chop harvest down early for quicker income, so if your growing them Grow with passion cos you'd find that if you pick up a ounc of a dealer it's gt smoked quicker then the MJ you grew with love and care cos when you grow with love and care it'll give you the same in RETURN! LOL!
Also because i was picking up half done MJ i found that i could smoke 1/4 of an ounce in 1 day. wer as with the MJ with my love and care was just pure quality i was bless with 1 fat joint that need 2 pulls every 15 to 20 mins. so all day i'd probably smoke 3 joint (not including the bedtime one LOL cos thgats just standard procedure LOL)

any way hope that advice helps came online personally cos i forgot which week my 6 weeks Veg would be ready as resin glads have started turning red (so far 40%) LOL i used a calender before and enjoyed my smoke so much i forgot the keep track of when it's ready LOL. Take care everyone thanks for passing tru. Bless

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i like your theorizing. i can relate to the dates not matching your reality. A consequence of smoking, or just that stoners fit more into a day than the people who made the calender?

Each day merges with the next, the days dissapear and there is just time; the now.[ideally lol ] best wishes nigel

I.T.GEEK83

LOL.. Stoners fit more in a day! and it's definitly all about; The Now. Lifes to short to be wasting time on yesterday and a waste of time to be thinking about the future that is unpredictable. All you can do in reality is prepared and accept everyday as it is and far as i'm aware it's the stoner who have the "shit happens" attitude.

ANy way back to my journal: Have to say i'm in my 9th week of flower for my plant that had a Veg time of 6weeks. The resin glands are mostly amber so emergency harvest initiatedleaving the lower few buds to swell up for another 3-4 days. I Must say i smoked a little sample (Microwave 10 sec burst x 20 with some kitchen tissue to asorb the moisture - I find that it doesn't make your bud all cripsy and give you better control of the quick dry) have to say the smoke was not as good as the Plants that had 4 weeks veg (also quick dry test sample used) however it may also be down to the genetics of the clone that was taken as i have noticed that compared to my clones that had 4 weeks veg there was more crystals on my 4 weeks veg clones BUT my Monster thats had 8 weeks veg is growing like an ace Crystals everywhere dense buds and with 3 weeks to go (actually 2 depending on the resin gland colour) i estimate easily 3 ounches may be more it's a jungle of bud in the lower branches the more developed branches are droppin with the weight but usin some wires giving them some support and also more light to the central branches. pictures to follow..

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I.T.GEEK83

A week late but here's what she's looking like. I Have to say the buds weren't as peng as clones that vegged for 4 weeks. the smoke feels dead like i'm smoking dry sea weed and leaving a nasty after taste. I flushed her about a week ago and the lemon smell is missing??? the stickiness is missing...??? and not only that i'm not gettin lean... have to say the resin glands are quite red i'd est around 60% did i Leave it to late????? any one care to share a similar experience? gonna let it dry more and see what happens. enjoy the pics.

8 Week Clone in 6th week of flower. Looking very promising. Fingers crossed.


8 week clones secondary growth just went crazy Buds everywhere mean while the 2 main branchs are the smallest but with condense bud sites. where as the secondary growth was topping my light gave her more room to breath by spreading her legs and letting more light in to the central branches. b4 and after pic added.

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DIY Reflector for stand alone CFL

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Second Grow <Sticky Lemon> Clones August 2008

(Lemon Skunk) 1 Week Clones VS 4 Weeks Clones VS 6 Week Clone VS 8 Week Clone

RHINO BAG SEED JOURNAL

treesforme

Geek83,looking good.What I ment on the light was using hid in veg instead of cfls in veg.I was wondering if its worth it.I have some that just went into flower that were veged with 12 hours hid and 12 hours cfls,(no veg room right now,we,ll see if it makes a big difference.Geek what size pots are you using?Im debaiting wheather or not to transplant,there in 2 gal buckets.Stay Safe!!

I.T.GEEK83

You can use any kind of lighting for vegging. Rumour spreads you get busher plants from using HID/HPS. just don't have it too close other wise you'd burn those babies. a way to check is if you put your hand in between the light and the plant for more then 30 seconds without the smell of roast chicken from your hands then it's a safe distance.

the pot size vary on all the plants i grow. i first use a transparent pot whiich i've used previously till end of flowering for a clone vegged for 2 weeks. but needed to transplant for more root growth for a clone that's vegged for 4 weeks and to a bigger pot for one vegged for 8 weeks.

Have to say my harvest for the 10th week of veg produced and end weight of 2ounces. and there was plenty of room left for more growth and that was in a 8 galon pot(in -pic). I'm finding that by giving them too much space reduces potency and you get a lot of airy buds where as the plant vegged for 4 weeks roots were just about starting to wrap around the bottom in a 2gal.

You have to also note these results are only for the lemon skunk and that results may vary to the type of plant you have.

I find that lemon although the yield depeneds on the time of veg time given to each clone. I find that potency can reduce when the pot is to big. and yield is reduce when it is too small. so for the genetics of skunk i have i think 4 weeks Veg time is Best for me using a 4gal pot. (Makes sense naturally there's around 3 months of summer (4 week veg + 8 weeks flower))

Also what i am doing is my own 50/50 soil/hydro setup. I am using Compost with john inns and Clay pebbles. Since MJ likes dry feet i figgured so that the bottom isn't constantly wet by using Clay pebbles at the bottom the roots have lots of space to grow and breath and by having soil in the rest of the pot there is still food being stored in the soil. i find that the roots drink and make there way to the side of the pots and then head down searching fo water and as it's clay pebbles they carry on searchin til they find water (at the bottom of course) and when the tray runs out of water i give it 2 more days till i refill and 2 weeks interval for watering the soil.

Thank you everyone for being with this experiment. It was a pleasureable smoke being here.

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DIY Reflector for stand alone CFL

FIM and Super Crop - Experiment

Second Grow <Sticky Lemon> Clones August 2008

(Lemon Skunk) 1 Week Clones VS 4 Weeks Clones VS 6 Week Clone VS 8 Week Clone

RHINO BAG SEED JOURNAL