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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Matt, Thank You for your skeptisism (SP?)! It's exactly what we need around here to keep us grounded I welcome ALL skeptics to follow along, as I too am SKEPTICAL at the moment?I have a good feeling about this, and it gets me kinda excited, but I am not sold 100% on the claims untill I see it for myself. Honestly, I dont feel anyone will truley believe this (if it's true) untill they try it out themselves. That is why I encourage EVERYONE to follow along and see what happens next. I just dont want to offend anyone, or be offended in the process. I am willing to kiss a whole lota butt in the process just to make that happen. I am just trying to seek info from ALL and still keep the peace![]() Jungle, it is great that you will be starting this treatment soon! We cant wait for some results and recovery Thank You for agreeing to keep detail on the oil and please make sure to post them in our Magic Oil Thread in the harvesting section. Everyone there is being SOOO HELPFUL- Its AMAZING in itself! http://www.gardenscure.com/420/hash-...aling-oil.html Regardless on the outcome and results, Good or Bad, I still feel BLESSED to know such a great group of people who are willing to pitch in and help out! JJG | ||
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I understand some skepticism, but it is important to look at this logically. Everybody who tries hemp oil sees it work. There are no testimonials saying hemp oil doesn't work; only that it does. Also, Rick Simpson has dedicated his life to promoting this medicine, and has worked very hard getting this movement to where it is. He has nothing to gain, and the donations to PhoenixTears haven't even amounted to the fine he had to pay ($2,000) for distribution back in 2007. Why would he be doing this if it wasn't real? Why would he have so many supporters if this wasn't real? Was everybody in Run From the Cure just lying for no reason? It doesn't make any sense. Not to mention, the science backs all of this up. Everything that Rick has cured with hemp oil, science has shown cannabis to be an effective treatment for, and that's SMOKED cannabis. Hemp oil is dozens of times more powerful, and is the raw, unburned cannabinoids. I don't see why this is so hard to believe. Pupuguru is another hemp oil distributor who has cured cancer, and he's right above me. I had someone send me oil who has cured cancer, and another person sent me oil who had been successfully treating cancer with the oil. The skepticism in the face of all this evidence is getting ridiculous. At this point, the only justification for skepticism is, "This is too hard to believe," despite all the evidence showing it is legitimate. The most important thing to remember is Rick's movement is based on people trying this for themselves. Unlike scams in the past, where the peddlers had people come to them and buy their treatments, Rick just gives people the information and says, "See it for yourself." That's what his movement is based on, the people trying it themselves. If it didn't work, his movement would have fallen apart years ago, but it's still going strong six years later. Despite this, it is okay to be skeptical, but some people are saying that there is no way this can be true, and that is what frustrates me. You don't have to fully believe, but don't completely knock it off until you see it not work for yourself. | ||
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | so far all I've seen is a bunch of talk on a forum mate. I'm glad you've seen the evidence, all I'm saying is I haven't. I'm the last person that would stand there and say it's too hard to believe. I believe there's been more for cancer then we even know about. shit, we can clone, and genetically pick and choose our childrens features and colours, and yet we can't figure out more for cancer? with all the billions invested per year?! an outrage. but what makes more money, curing cancer or keeping sick patients? the latter of course. please, I'm trying to have cool fingers. lol. this isn't supposed to be going like this. I was trying to say I'm excited to look into it. and I'll do that, but for people that are looking for ways to prove this, you're sure pissing off a lot of people that generate large quantities that could be a big support to your cause. a common problem when someone is so gung hoe about something. you're so excited and certain that you react in almost anger when someone doesn't blindly believe you. try and get people on your good side maybe instead of trying to cram it down everyones throat. what happens to the jews knocking on your door trying to give you flyers? let people look into things themselves, you can only guide a horse to water, you can't make them drink. | ||
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | anyone partaking in this, would be participating in perhaps one of the greatest achievements in history. | ||
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | and it is perhaps a bit too easy to absorb some of the hate and fear directed towards this plant. and us... we are after all just, useless junkies and lowlifes? and mj is just a horrible harmful weed thats killing our children and leading them into hell and whatnot? personally , im of no opinion, but hopeful. i am in no position to test this, as of yet. | ||
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Matt, I'm not trying to force anyone to believe this, I just want people to acknowledge that there is a good chance this is legitimate. I know 100% certainly it is true, but I understand that others would not. The only thing I can do is respond to skepticism with the results and science, and try to convince people to use some of their crop to make and test the oil. I am very aggressive in doing so because it is so important, and each day many people exist in pain and suffering because hemp oil is not widely available yet. Obviously, the one way to win is for people to do this for themselves; in fact, just believing doesn't do that much for the movement. If the skepticism leads to testing the oil, that is good. If it only leads to badmouthing Rick and criticism, then it is bad. This thread has been VERY good, and it's been on other forums where there have been problems. I think the skepticism here is healthy and necessary. | ||
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![]() ![]() | High Matt, "so far all I've seen is a bunch of talk on a forum mate. I'm glad you've seen the evidence, all I'm saying is I haven't. I'm the last person that would stand there and say it's too hard to believe. I believe there's been more for cancer then we even know about. shit, we can clone, and genetically pick and choose our childrens features and colours, and yet we can't figure out more for cancer? with all the billions invested per year?! an outrage. but what makes more money, curing cancer or keeping sick patients? the latter of course." So, Matt, Would you like to meet some Dutch people to hear what they have to say about this treatment? There are several who came referrals from Rick. You are in a position to be a great help to us all. I look forward to meeting with you if that is possible. ;-D Sam aka pupuguru Last edited by pupuguru; 05-24-2009 at 04:11 PM.. Reason: Add second sentence in last paragraph | ||
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Thanks for being here Sam, you are extremely helpful here, especially since you have treated cancer patients yourself. I was talking to Rick last night about you, and he has good things to say as well. He was surprised that you are able to ship hemp oil worldwide, since it all has to go through drug dogs, but I read that you use a technique to make the packages odorless. That is very clever, and your intelligence will lead to many lives being saved. | ||
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | OK GUYS!!! I Am So EXCITED This Morning My Journey Into This Trial Officially Began! I just sent my Dad on a plane to travel over 3000 miles for the sake of seeking the TRUTH with Evidence of the "Magic Oil" He has been blessed with the oppurtinity to go stay a few days with a man who makes the oil for Rick here in the States for patients out of time. He is going to go take a 3 day crash coarse in all this. The man he is going to be seeing is also producing a documentary of success stories from the oil, and all the trials Rick has faced /is facing to get this message out. Not only is he going to get to watch the oil be made, but he will also get the oppertunity to actually make a batch of this magic -or miracle oil. It is very SCARY entering the un-known, but hey...Someones got to do it I am proud of my Dad for agreeing to do this, but he too is confident that this is what his body needs? He's just a lil 'scared'. Its hard for me to see my Dad that way, as I've always been Daddy's Girl. He's always seemed 'untouchable' in my eyes. (Untill I was sending him to board a plane to venture into the un-known) I put a GPS Tracking devise on his phone so I can locate him within 3 ft. area at any time...Do you think thats a lil obsessive? Well, his plane will be landing in about 2 hours, and he should be at the clinic by about 3:00. I'm sure he is going to keep me posted, as I will be watching his every move (Now that I realize this GPS technology exists, my poor boys dont stand a chance ) Im not sure if my Dad is starting his treatment there, or after returning home? He is flying home so Im sure he will do what ever is safest? I will keep this thread updated and post any info on the extraction process on our other thread. (Making Magic Oil") I sent him off with a good camera, but Im not sure if he will be allowed to take any picts? My Dad the type of person that wouldnt ask either if he feel it would make someone uncomfortable, So???Wish us Luck! Please keep my Dad in your thoughts and Prayers for his safe return.JJG | ||
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I'd be happy to meet some patients that have had success with this. ![]() | ||
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