superGREEN

I was wondering if leaves and stems contain any THC, or just the bud? Also, does a young plant contain any THC? Do plants start accumulating THC as soon as they are "born" or only when they start to flower? I'm not sure where this question belongs so if its in the wrong place someone please move it

KILLER_HIT

I want to know the answer to this question also....

pasaban

I had the same question a while ago. The best answer that I can give is: THC is produced only in the bud and is only produced in significant amounts after the flowering stage has begun(12/12 light cycle). That is according to Kyle on Hightimes website as well as Mel Franks's bible. However, this forms a new question. Are the resin glands on the stems and leaves filled with THC or other "stuff". I am still trying to find the answer to that question myself.

Question #2: Young plants contain only trace amounts of THC BEFORE they start flowering. It is possible to start flowering your plant around one foot tall, however. This will induce the formation of buds and THC levels will increase significantly. However your yield will not be nearly as high, but will produce some quality smoke, depending on the genetics of your plant and its environment.

PS-Marijuana plants love light and would remain "happy" if they were never budded at all. They are basically like machines. That is why they can be placed under light for 24 hours in the beginning of their life. They form resin glands to basically protect the plants leaves from the suns light and changing spectrum. I also read that it has something to do with the fact that during the fall the light that actually hits us has a more red spectrum because of the Earth's rotation and the red shifted effect of that. This is why people prefer metal-halide(blue) in the beginning and then switch to HPS(red) to induce flowering.

superGREEN

Interesting news pasaban...it would seem to make sense. It's just that I've heard of lots of people making hash out of leaf so there must be some THC in it in order for this to work.

Warloc730

Yo pasaban, welcome to the fold.

My forté is in this technical stuff so I'll give it a shot...

THC is produced throughout the entire plant during the entire cycle. The majority of the resin glands are centered on the buds (about 90%) but you can also find them on the leaves and stems. You can prove this by keeping a plant in veg and smoking some of the top leaves. If it is good seed then you should get a nice buzz with a bowl of leaves.

Which one and which page? I have the indoor grower's guide and the deluxe mj grower's guide.

Good question. That other stuff is grouped into a catagory of chemicals called cannabinoids that are comprised of CBD, THC, THCV and a few other non-active compounds.

CBD is the main compound in question. It is usually the most abundant cannabinoid but it is not nearly as active as THC or THCV. CBD doesn't exactly do much to promote a high, it just alters the type of high that you get. Indicas are known for having more CBD than other strains and this is why they are known for their "couch lock" body highs.

It should also be known that THCV is not nearly as potent as THC but has been known to contain high percentages in many world class strains. The explaination for this should be obvious, but THCV has never been shown to effect the brain very much, and yet it still appears in a lot of great strains in volumes of up to 70% of resin content.

I don't think a red shift from our sun would be enough to change the evolutionary path...but that is a damned fine idea. It might have something to do with the way our atmosphere reflects certain kinds of light at certain angles but I'm pretty sure that a noticable red shift takes a lot of speed. The red shift theory would also have to include a blue shift to counteract it.

The main reason that people like to have blues for veg and reds for flowering is that blues promote photosyntesis which is good for building a good root structure and other things that the plant needs until it is fully mature.

Red lights, on the other hand, are good at chlorosynthesis which is needed for fast and hearty growth after the plant has matured.

Good growing,

- War

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superGREEN

You seem to be very knowledgeable Warloc. I wish to hear more of your theories/information on various psychoactive substances...

toot

I don't know any of the theory, but I have tried removing THC from leaf and stem.
Very young plants, stems and most large fan leaves contain so little THC that they are not worth processing. You can try making cannabutter, but it tastes like sh1t, and you need a lot of it.
Any growing tip, or leaf from a flowering plant can be processed.
I have tried making oil by using solvents, search for "honey oil" for what I found to be the best method, but I never liked it very much, it is messy and it lost strength after a couple of days.
I am now using a scuffing machine:
"http://www.overgrow.com/iss1/hashwithot.html"
I have also tried cold water extraction:
"http://www.overgrow.com/edge/showthread.php?threadid=14870"
although I didn't have to buy the bags.
I prefer the scuffing machine, and it is the least work.

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superGREEN

Interesting...I will investigate this scuffing machine...I guess what I want to know is what can be done with all that leaf after the plant is harvested, other than making hash, also, when making hash, should you put bud in there??

Nasarius

I dunno which Mel Frank bible you're talking about, but "The Marijuana Grower's Guide" by Mel Frank and Ed Rosenthal has a number of good things to say about vegetative leaves. Check it out:
http://www.freespeech.org/bandit710/grow.html

Dr.Greenthumb

the other day i noticed one of my plants was male it was about 2 feet tall and so i just chopped it down and hung it up to dry, i wasnt expecting there to be enuf thc in the leaves and tip things to do anything, but i was really desperate one night so i thought oh what the hell, and took some leaves off my plant and smoked about 10 cones, and then went in side and i started tripping, but not the usual heavy tiresome trip but like a trip that just made music sound wicked and gave me the giggles, so i went and told my mum, and she said thats all they used to smoke back in the 60's so all in all it was pretty cool, i wouldnt smoke it if i had bud, but if your desperate give it a try..

peace. dr.g