iwishicould

I had a thought earlier and wanted to run it accross a bunch of you, If you were to hang your lights (compact fluro spirals for this application) lower than the top of your plants or rather around your plants would internode spacing increase or decrease. A thought would be, it in itself would be a form of Lumenous light stress training. Where if the light were to be hung lower than the tops of the seedling/young plant the internode spacing would decrease. On a second test one could then raise the lights to the point of max height and see how different the response would be. The only variable being the lights height around the plant. One would even have to insure that the experiment be conducted at the same time of year. I know it can be done, I think it could be a challenge that could result in some very interesting results.
Just a thought!
IWIC

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Fillabong

I think you're brilliant IWIC Apical tips all stretching towards the light horizontally eh? Would the nodal spacing be any different though? Plants are affected by gravity. That's a really great idea. Try it

cheapbastard's crazy upside down bucket is pretty cool eh?

grass_hopper

IWIC - Sounds like an interesting experiment. My guess is that dropping lights below the canopy will help with bushiness but not with internodal length. I'm going to wager that the nodal length is a function of overall light that reaches the branch tips/colas. That's where the flower/seed production happens, so it's those that are going to stretch to get to the best light.

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hey IWIC,
Tha sounds like a good idea. It sounds like it would make the nodes tighter together. I would try it but my main source of light is a 1000 watt hps.

I thought of a good to execute your plan though....

Have you ever seen the circular flouro tubes? you could literally mount it around your plant and the light coverage would be equal from all sides, probably would be easier to setup and work a little better than the CFs.

Im not sure what the wattage is on the circular flouros though...


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iwishicould

Hanging 4 compacts around the plant at the same level seems to work from what I've seen the circular tubes at 40? watts are a thought but I would be worried about the possibility of a fluro tube bieng damaged with the constant activity around it seems to me that the compacts are a little more resilient to knocks.
The strain is new and at the level i'm seeing it grown at it will take awhile to conduct these experiments. The good thing is that there is no rush lol
Thanx for the comments, suggestions, any more thoughts on this?.
IWIC

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n_d_shadows

IWIC - I use a 32 watt circular flourescent in my veg boxes. The one thing I have noticed is the plants resistance to grow past the bulbs. Seems once they get to the same plane the bulb is on and the light is from the side, not the top, it forces secondary growth to increase and the top to slow. Doesnt seem to have a huge effect on the node spacing, unless the growing tip is touching the flourescent.
Even as far as the secondaries go, the nodes dont get any tighter until the tips get close to the bulb.
A more powerful light source may have different effects, but this is my current experience with it.

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iwishicould

Thats pretty well describes to me the effect of such a placement keep in mind four 23 watt spiral compacts give off 92 watts if my maths correct.
I've also noticed more growth at the main stem where new branches meet the stem however the strain is new so my findings are to say the least, completly biased unfortunatly. The NL I see is suffering from reused organic dirt although flushed I beleive there is some type of lockout taking place likely in the form of Mg deficiency (twisty leaves ,bottom moving to top very slowly perhaps no longer advacing )Although dwarfed the nodes appear extremly close
again to many variables for definitive answer oh well hope for somewhat similar variables nest time.

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